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RE: A list of all of God's crimes
June 3, 2012 at 5:57 pm
(June 3, 2012 at 5:40 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: I'd hate to be his defence attorney.
Not even Phoenix Wright can save his almighty arse.
Imagine the parade of witnesses the prosecution could bring forth!
Prosecutor: "Tell us about what happened to your child."
Witness: "Our little Billy contracted cancer when he was five. He endured unspeakable pain as his disease progressed and he died in agony two years later."
Prosecutor: "And the defendant (motions toward God), had the power to end Billy's suffering, did he not?"
Witness: "Yes. He could have cured Billy's cancer at any time with no effort whatsoever."
Prosecutor: "And did you ask the defendant to cure Billy?"
Witness: "Yes! We asked several times a day! We begged for Billy's cancer to be cured!"
Prosecutor: "And did the defendant respond to your requests in any way?"
Witness: "No, never! He never even gave us a reason why he he wouldn't cure Billy!"
Prosecutor: "So, even though your Billy was suffering terribly, and the defendant could easily cure Billy, and even though you repeatedly asked the defendant to cure Billy, the defendant did nothing. Is that correct?
Witness: "Yes!"
I can't imagine a verdict other than "Guilty!".
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RE: A list of all of God's crimes
June 3, 2012 at 7:57 pm
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2012 at 8:01 pm by Angrboda.)
Not to be lawyerly, but I see problems of both standing and jurisdiction. (Not to mention sanity, competence, and mens rea....)
(Oh, and the question of tort and negligence are relevant, too. In U.S. law, apparently, the police have no duty to prevent you being harmed by a criminal act, even if they are in a position to prevent it. No liability there.)
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RE: A list of all of God's crimes
June 3, 2012 at 8:09 pm
I'm going to have to dismiss this case due to a complete and utter lack of evidence.
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RE: A list of all of God's crimes
June 3, 2012 at 9:04 pm
(June 3, 2012 at 5:57 pm)Thor Wrote: (June 3, 2012 at 5:40 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
So can I sue a doctor or have him/her put into prison if they refuse to see me.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: A list of all of God's crimes
June 3, 2012 at 9:12 pm
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You probably could. Does the doctor have a reason for not seeing you, or is it just because he doesn't give a toss? Does the doctor even exist?
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RE: A list of all of God's crimes
June 3, 2012 at 9:14 pm
Voyeurism, he can see everything after all.
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RE: A list of all of God's crimes
June 3, 2012 at 11:32 pm
(June 3, 2012 at 9:12 pm)Stimbo Wrote: You probably could. Does the doctor have a reason for not seeing you, or is it just because he doesn't give a toss? Does the doctor even exist?
It was just a question. Never had it to happen.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: A list of all of God's crimes
June 3, 2012 at 11:51 pm
No it's ok, I realise you meant it rhetorically. I just felt in a position to respond with a couple of my own.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: A list of all of God's crimes
June 4, 2012 at 12:36 am
(June 3, 2012 at 5:57 pm)Thor Wrote: Imagine the parade of witnesses the prosecution could bring forth!
Prosecutor: "Tell us about what happened to your child."
Witness: "Our little Billy contracted cancer when he was five. He endured unspeakable pain as his disease progressed and he died in agony two years later."
Prosecutor: "And the defendant (motions toward God), had the power to end Billy's suffering, did he not?"
Witness: "Yes. He could have cured Billy's cancer at any time with no effort whatsoever."
Prosecutor: "And did you ask the defendant to cure Billy?"
Witness: "Yes! We asked several times a day! We begged for Billy's cancer to be cured!"
Prosecutor: "And did the defendant respond to your requests in any way?"
Witness: "No, never! He never even gave us a reason why he he wouldn't cure Billy!"
Prosecutor: "So, even though your Billy was suffering terribly, and the defendant could easily cure Billy, and even though you repeatedly asked the defendant to cure Billy, the defendant did nothing. Is that correct?
Witness: "Yes!"
I can't imagine a verdict other than "Guilty!".
He won't be guilty by this argument unless it can be shown that a) he had a part in infliction of the cancer and b) he had a responsibility to respond and cure Billy. The most you can do with this witness is bring a civil suit, not a criminal one, in which case the Prosecutor would change to Plaintiff.
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RE: A list of all of God's crimes
June 4, 2012 at 1:01 am
Well, if God is the giver and taker of all and plans our lives out for us, we are just puppets on strings. Every action we take would be attributed to him. Good and bad.
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