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Why did God create the universe?
#61
RE: Why did God create the universe?
(June 6, 2012 at 3:53 pm)BeeDeePee Wrote: No. God is the Holy Trinity and can not be alone.

Creation of the world is just a sign of his love.

So he is three, and not one.
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#62
RE: Why did God create the universe?
(June 5, 2012 at 9:47 pm)Annik Wrote: I'm the most important sperm!

For some reason I'm reminded of this song...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

(June 6, 2012 at 2:56 am)Godschild Wrote:
(June 6, 2012 at 1:56 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Ha, guess Thor's hypothesis wasn't too far off then.

No, Thor hasn't a clue.

That's not true! I most certainly have a clue! And it leads me to conclude that it was Colonel Mustard! In the ballroom! With a candlestick!

(June 6, 2012 at 3:53 pm)BeeDeePee Wrote: Creation of the world is just a sign of his love.

Really? And was it also a "sign of his love" when he created the little beaties that cause smallpox, polio and malaria?
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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#63
RE: Why did God create the universe?
Godschild Wrote:God created the universe for His pleasure, simple really.

Pleasure implies a feeling of sastifaction or enjoyment, which also implies that god can be sad and unfulfilled. An oddly human characteristic for a diety, if you ask me.

Also, do you have a biblical basis for this, or are you just speculating?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#64
RE: Why did God create the universe?
(June 6, 2012 at 12:14 am)Drich Wrote:
(June 5, 2012 at 9:43 pm)cato123 Wrote: Oh, do tell. Which catholic doctrines 'reinforce alot of the atheist views of God'?
Where do you want to start?

Name one, just one. You must provide one example where catholic doctrine teaches that there is no god. No god is the only atheist view on god. That's it.
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#65
RE: Why did God create the universe?
(June 6, 2012 at 5:22 am)Welsh cake Wrote:
(June 6, 2012 at 1:29 am)Godschild Wrote: God created the universe for His pleasure, simple really.

So when this thing gets bored of the cosmos, when reality no longer gives him any joy or satisfaction, he'll destroy it?

What would make you ask such a question, are you privy to info the rest of are not, if so please share.

As I see it God does not have to deal with time, as it holds no bounds upon Him. Being bored is related to time, this in it self would not be any part of God.

(June 6, 2012 at 4:16 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
Godschild Wrote:God created the universe for His pleasure, simple really.

Pleasure implies a feeling of sastifaction or enjoyment, which also implies that god can be sad and unfulfilled. An oddly human characteristic for a diety, if you ask me.

Also, do you have a biblical basis for this, or are you just speculating?

Yes there is Biblical reference to this, I'll have to search it out, can not recall were it is in scripture. God has been sad and satisfied, His creation would be one way He's gone through this. Unfulfilled, never, that would not fit into who He is.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#66
RE: Why did God create the universe?
(June 6, 2012 at 3:37 pm)BeeDeePee Wrote: He created the world to live in communion with him.
He must be pretty disappointed then. Big Grin


Quote:No, he wanted to.
Please provide a reason, not just an assertion of why he wanted to.


(June 6, 2012 at 3:53 pm)BeeDeePee Wrote: Creation of the world is just a sign of his love.

Love?
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I think you need glasses... or a psychiatric evaluation.
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#67
RE: Why did God create the universe?
(June 6, 2012 at 5:24 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:
(June 6, 2012 at 3:37 pm)BeeDeePee Wrote: He created the world to live in communion with him.
He must be pretty disappointed then. Big Grin


Quote:No, he wanted to.
Please provide a reason, not just an assertion of why he wanted to.


(June 6, 2012 at 3:53 pm)BeeDeePee Wrote: Creation of the world is just a sign of his love.

Love?


I think you need glasses... or a psychiatric evaluation.

Holy shit man, that is totally unfair. You really expect an all powerful perfect god do be consistent? I'm alive, you are alive, their lives meant nothing, we were the "special" ones.

You know in all seriousness, how anyone can look at those pictures and still believe in an all powerful all loving god astounds me. It was much more understandable when these myths were invented by humans when our species was ignorant. But now?

Who the fuck would hire a baby sitter to sit their kid with a selective record like this god they claim?

The reason those horrible events happen is not the result of a cosmic Superman vs a cosmic Lex Luthor. Those horrible things happen because humans have always been capable of doing horrible things.

The more people wake up to that fact, maybe the less these horrible events will happen.
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#68
RE: Why did God create the universe?
(June 6, 2012 at 4:33 pm)cato123 Wrote:
(June 6, 2012 at 12:14 am)Drich Wrote: Where do you want to start?

Name one, just one. You must provide one example where catholic doctrine teaches that there is no god. No god is the only atheist view on god. That's it.

Carlin was a self proclaimed atheist was he not? and his religious roots were based in Catholicism. That would make his views on God as an atheist based on what Catholicism teaches god to be. Now if you (being an atheist as well) can identify or support any questions or challenges based any work or material Carlin put together based on his knowledge of God then, it can be said that [at least apart of the] Catholic doctrine supports the Atheist view of God.

Hmmm, Now only if their were some way of tying you to some work or bit Carlin did based on his catholic based knowledge of God that you agreed with... If such a thing existed then maybe we could start there.Thinking
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#69
RE: Why did God create the universe?
(June 6, 2012 at 5:59 pm)Drich Wrote: Carlin was a self proclaimed atheist was he not? and his religious roots were based in Catholicism. That would make his views on God as an atheist based on what Catholicism teaches god to be. Now if you (being an atheist as well) can identify or support any questions or challenges based any work or material Carlin put together based on his knowledge of God then, it can be said that [at least apart of the] Catholic doctrine supports the Atheist view of God.

Hmmm, Now only if their were some way of tying you to some work or bit Carlin did based on his catholic based knowledge of God that you agreed with... If such a thing existed then maybe we could start there.Thinking

Reaching way far far away in a land where, if you didn't believe in god as a catholic, you got the ruler against the knuckles, or as some nuns enjoyed a kick down a flight of stairs.

Acting now (ad hom) stupid doesn't fly either kiddo.

8 years of Catholic school during corporal punishment no you believed in god or like some nuns enjoyed a good slam the head against the blackboard.

Sure failing religion was strictly punished. Been there done that, wouldn't suggest it. It was go along with them or else.

I just got the pats on the ass for asking questions. Fail religion was holy hell.

Then after the nuns (some Priests a schoolmate or so would state) the beatings came home.

Smug idiocy is still an attempt to slither through this debate.
"Religion is comparable to Childhood neurosis" Sigmond Freud

"If one wishes to form a true estimate of the full grandeur of religion, one must keep in mind what it undertakes to do for men. It gives them information about the source and origin of the universe, it assures them of protection and final happiness amid the changing vicissitudes of life, and it guides their thoughts and motions by means of precepts which are backed by the whole force of its authority."

SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis

"Religion is an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that it falls in with our instinctual desires."

SIGMUND FREUD, New Introductory Lectures on Psychoanalysis

"Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck." George Carlin

"The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of women's emancipation." Elizabeth Cady Stanton - American Suffragist (1815-1902)

"Who loves kitty" Robin Williams live on Broadway DVD

"You cannot petition the lord with prayer" Jim Morrison The Soft Parade.
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#70
RE: Why did God create the universe?
(June 6, 2012 at 3:37 pm)BeeDeePee Wrote: He created the world to live in communion with him.
Best explanation so far. He was fed up wanking alone in the dark.ROFLOL
I have no problem sharing a common ancestor with the apes; it's being related to some people that bothers me.
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