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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 18, 2012 at 9:44 pm
(June 18, 2012 at 7:58 pm)gomtuu77 Wrote: I would suggest that it was because it pleased Him to do so. In addition, it was another way in which He could express his only perfectly virtuous and just nature. And having more epxression of perfection is better than less, at least from my perspective.
Welcome aboard. It's good to meet a fellow conservative Republican Christian. You can count on me for support and encouragement here in this lion's den.
Can you elaborate, what parts of the universe do you think of first when you consider the Lord's virtuous and just nature?
Praise!
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 12:10 am
(June 18, 2012 at 3:56 pm)Annik Wrote: Did your god create everything?
Only in a manner of speaking, why is it no one will go read the Genesis account and find out for themselves, it truly is a short read.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 12:16 am
(June 19, 2012 at 12:10 am)Godschild Wrote: (June 18, 2012 at 3:56 pm)Annik Wrote: Did your god create everything?
Only in a manner of speaking, why is it no one will go read the Genesis account and find out for themselves, it truly is a short read.
If your god did not create everything, then who did?
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 12:28 am
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(June 18, 2012 at 9:44 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: (June 18, 2012 at 7:58 pm)gomtuu77 Wrote: I would suggest that it was because it pleased Him to do so. In addition, it was another way in which He could express his only perfectly virtuous and just nature. And having more epxression of perfection is better than less, at least from my perspective.
Welcome aboard. It's good to meet a fellow conservative Republican Christian. You can count on me for support and encouragement here in this lion's den.
Can you elaborate, what parts of the universe do you think of first when you consider the Lord's virtuous and just nature?
Praise! It's not so much about "parts of the universe", but it is about His creation of beings (i.e. us) that enable God to express His nature more fully. This doesn't just mean the idea of love, though that is obviously central, but I believe that even His justice is a good or virtue that is more fully expressed within the context of His interaction with His human creation.
I'm glad to see another believer in these forums as well.
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 6:25 am
(June 19, 2012 at 12:10 am)Godschild Wrote: (June 18, 2012 at 3:56 pm)Annik Wrote: Did your god create everything?
Only in a manner of speaking, why is it no one will go read the Genesis account and find out for themselves, it truly is a short read.
We have read it, repeatedly.
Your point?
Gen1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forthabundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Says here that god created every living creature.
Don't know your own book very well do you......
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 7:55 am
(June 18, 2012 at 7:58 pm)gomtuu77 Wrote: I would suggest that it was because it pleased Him to do so. In addition, it was another way in which He could express his only perfectly virtuous and just nature. And having more epxression of perfection is better than less, at least from my perspective.
Yep, sends bears to maul children to death.......
Very just and virtuous indeed. 
Sounds more like a petulant child having a temper tantrum than a supreme deity to me.
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 8:24 am
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(June 18, 2012 at 7:58 pm)gomtuu77 Wrote: I would suggest that it was because it pleased Him to do so. In addition, it was another way in which He could express his only perfectly virtuous and just nature. And having more epxression of perfection is better than less, at least from my perspective.
In which case, why aren't all planets inhabited. If more expression of perfection is better than less, why create only an effectively small and finite number of toys for you to impress?
I always love the perfectly virtuous bit. Its the dictator call. What I do is the perfect way to do things because I'm in charge and if you disagree I will send you to the torture pits.
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 10:17 am
(June 19, 2012 at 12:16 am)Annik Wrote: If your god did not create everything, then who did?
You know what I wanna ask? If god created everything, it's not the 'why' I'm interested in, it's the how. How the fuck did he violate the laws of nature?
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 10:17 am
(June 19, 2012 at 12:28 am)gomtuu77 Wrote: I believe that even His justice is a good or virtue that is more fully expressed within the context of His interaction with His human creation.
Such as? Has He interacted with you? I mean more than just in prayer, obviously that's a given with Christians, but in your life?
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RE: Why did God create the universe?
June 19, 2012 at 1:38 pm
(June 19, 2012 at 12:10 am)Godschild Wrote: (June 18, 2012 at 3:56 pm)Annik Wrote: Did your god create everything?
Only in a manner of speaking, why is it no one will go read the Genesis account and find out for themselves, it truly is a short read.
What are you talking about? Either your deity created everything or he didn't. Which is it?
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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