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Soul creation
#41
RE: Soul creation
BINGTHEFUCKGO.
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#42
RE: Soul creation
(June 6, 2012 at 8:01 am)ChadWooters Wrote: I have to laugh when these guys deliberately misread scripture to justify their belief that they should sit on God's throne.
1. Its not a misquote.
2. I don't believe in god, let alone the god having a "throne" and you already know this.
3. Why the fuck do you think that if I believed in magic man I'd want to usurp it? Before properly de-converted from Christianity I hated the tyrant god. I had nothing but contempt for the creator of hell and everything he stood for.
4. Why are you acting so predictable Chad?
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#43
RE: Soul creation
ChadWooters Wrote:I have to laugh when these guys deliberately misread scripture to justify their belief that they should sit on God's throne.

And I have to laugh when a theist confuses the idea that an atheist thinks their god myth is silly with the notion that an atheist simply wishes to take the place of said god.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#44
RE: Soul creation
(June 6, 2012 at 1:13 am)Godschild Wrote: There are no ..... dumb souls,

What do you call yours?
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#45
RE: Soul creation
I think souls are only allowed to be deaf.
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#46
RE: Soul creation
(June 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm)Epimethean Wrote: I think souls are only allowed to be deaf.

Deaf and dumb.
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#47
RE: Soul creation
(June 5, 2012 at 9:33 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(June 5, 2012 at 9:17 pm)Bravo Wrote: So, apart from very vague generalities, you cannot tell me how the most important part of you comes to be, your immortal soul, which is supposed to last billions and billions of years in heaven after your mortal body returns to dust. What is the whole point of your religion if you cannot explain even this very basic thing? How are you going to enjoy heaven (or suffer in hell)? What is a soul anyway? How it is made, how does it comes into existence? Why are souls different (good/bad/smart/dumb/beyond any hope) and what makes them so? Your whole religion idea is based on the immortality of the soul of which you have not the foggiest idea what and how and why it is. Pathetic.

Wasting your breath. Your very reasonable attack on what they purport to know diminishes the certainty they feel in the bible not one iota. Compared to them, you have nothing .. just opinions and science. They have the word of God in writing. It doesn't really matter if they don't understand its internal inconsistencies. They just assume God knows and that's good enough for the girls they go with.


Yep...abject stupidity is hard to overcome...especially when they think it comes from their fucking god.
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#48
RE: Soul creation
I actually don't know the answer to this at all. Thanks for bringing it up. I will think about it and let you know what I think is "possible" or "likely".
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#49
RE: Soul creation
(June 6, 2012 at 3:28 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
ChadWooters Wrote:I have to laugh when these guys deliberately misread scripture to justify their belief that they should sit on God's throne.

And I have to laugh when a theist confuses the idea that an atheist thinks their god myth is silly with the notion that an atheist simply wishes to take the place of said god.

All unbelievers are trying to usurp God, this is one of the most obvious things in all history.

(June 6, 2012 at 4:19 am)Bravo [/quote' Wrote:
(June 6, 2012 at 1:13 am)Godschild Wrote: You are correct in saying the soul was created, god only created three times in the six days and the soul was created on the sixth day. The scriptures never state that God did or had to recreate anything, so I do not see God creating a soul each time a persons conceived, only within the human race is a soul part of conception.

One single soul for the entire human race? Please explain who is in heaven and who enjoys hell?

You know I did not mean one soul, if you did well.... what can I say.
Those who accept Christ as their savior are going to be in heaven, those who do not will be in hell, this is as simple as I can make it.

(June 6, 2012 at 1:13 am)Godschild Wrote: You are correct in saying the soul was created, god only created three times in the six days and the soul was created on the sixth day. The scriptures never state that God did or had to recreate anything, so I do not see God creating a soul each time a persons conceived, only within the human race is a soul part of conception.

Wc Wrote:Right, the soul has a beginning, therefore has an end. They are conceived in the womb, two souls coming together creates a new soul, god did not create your soul, and souls ultimately die with the body. All I need to know
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No the soul is eternal, it is spirit, not physical.


Gc Wrote:You ask what happens to souls, the only wasted souls belong to those who reject Christ, these will be in hell for eternity (please let's not start on eternity here), those children who die before they come to understand sin will be in heaven, God has made provision for them.

Wc Wrote:Does your god call those souls who died in sin a waste? If so then why?

I believe that God sees that a person has wasted their life, when they simply would have to give it over to their creator.


Gc Wrote:God's plan is perfect.

Wc Wrote:All the legions of lost souls vastly outnumbering the handful of saved souls, not withstanding. That was all part of the plan wasn't it?

No it is the decisions of the individuals that have made possible for them to spend eternity in hell. God has said, He desires that no one lose their life.


Gc Wrote:There are no smart souls or dumb souls, our soul is the way we understand God once we believe. God is spirit, our soul is spirit, this enables use to understand God. There are smart and dumb choices to be made with God.

Wc Wrote:The scriptures contradict you:
Mark 9:17 And one of the multitude answered and said, Teacher, I have brought unto you my son, who has a dumb spirit;

You should quit cherry picking, for that practice is making you the one who looks dumb. You ever heard the term dumb use for someone who can not hear, it totally applies here, you big dummy.Angel
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#50
RE: Soul creation
[quote='Bravo' pid='295422' dateline='1338970783']
Quote:So if these personality traits are stripped off the soul when we die, what is left of us? No memories, no likes and dislikes, people we love, nothing? We go to heaven/hell as an empty standard carcass? Nice, it means I will not be aware of what happens.
Nothing you listed here is recorded as being "striped off." for we are dual natured. That not to say Christ will not seperate us soul from spirit and judge the whole of our existance. But even so nothing is recorded to thrown out.

I was simply saying what you were describing were attributes of the Spirit and not the Soul.
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