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hello from an iraqi atheist.... rare lol
#21
RE: hello from an iraqi atheist.... rare lol
welcome, I'm from Bahrain, I'm glad there is another Arab atheist here, that would give us much to talk about.
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RE: hello from an iraqi atheist.... rare lol
(July 21, 2012 at 9:30 pm)C.W. Sims Wrote:
(July 21, 2012 at 5:54 pm)finalyawake Wrote: maby sometime ill open up a YouTube channel telling people my story Smile
pleases excuse my english Smile and thank you for welcoming me

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i didn't understand but yeah i will drink and i will eat pork eventually lol i can finally have wine and have pepironi pizza and marshmallows a=i can listen to music and watch TV and play video games i can have girl friends ... so yeah i am getting a few luxuries Smile

First of all, your English is better than some people who have spoken it their entire lives. So no need to apologize.

Second, it is amazing to see someone new to atheism and just breaking out of their old mindset who is so excited to be starting out on a new path. You have realized that your life can be so much more than it was under that oppressive regime and you are more than ready to get out there and just experience life. I say go for it. Have as much pizza as you want, watch tv shows you've never seen, listen to music, drink alcohol, have a girlfriend, hell have a boyfriend if you'd like, now that you won't get murdered for it. Just get out there and enjoy life.

Also if you do decide to start a youtube channel, do please share it with us. I, for one, would be fascinated to see that. You seem quite articulate and ready to try life on for size. I think it would be a fantastic thing to see and learn about a person going through your transition so early in the game.

(July 21, 2012 at 7:40 pm)jonb Wrote: Lost in translation so how about this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVeUhkyfO...re=related

That comedian was hilarious, jonb, fucking fantastic. Thanks for sharing. Love that accent he has as well.

haha thank you and yeah i will start one but when i get the time to do so lol and haha yup i will lol too be honest for some reason i have always been attracted to Asian women .... back in Iraq that was a fantasy but know i could actually go out their and actually have an Asian girlfriend if i wanted to so yeah i am going to live life rather than waste it and devote it to someone that doesn't even exist.... and even if he did exist what kind of god would do such things to his creations lol so here is to a new life Big Grin

(July 22, 2012 at 5:50 am)RaphielDrake Wrote:
(July 21, 2012 at 5:54 pm)finalyawake Wrote: well about the war..... it is true allot of the soldures are just horrible people women got raped and all sorts of horrible things... most of the people that were labeled as terrorists were just normal people like you and me who didn't want to leave their home and got shot for that like in fallujah. Also religious freedom went away before the war believe it or not our neighbors were Christians and allot of Sunnis and Shi'ites lived together and even in our government we had Sunni Muslims Shi'ite Muslims and Christians.... the most famous being Tariq Aziz. but know every thing changed we are all discriminated against and you get killed depending on what type of Muslim you are... our new "free" government to me is nothing more than a slave to Iran. now i don't really see a united future for the country and about our side actually Iraq defeating saddam was the easy part really most of the time you spent fighting insurgents and most of those insurgents are not even Iraqi! most alqaida fighters are usually from outside the country and most suicide bombers are from Saudi Arabia even though western Iraq in cities such as fallujah. but for the Shi'ites on the other case most fighters were Iraqi. both sides ruined us.
and on the other story when i was a child i always was thinking about religion and at one point i hate full hate towards Jews. things changed and i started looking into things when i came to the USA i looked into Buddhism, Christianity and all the major religions except Hinduism. after that i saw many flaws in the quran and started to realize that the quran the hadiths and the prophet were not the things i thought they were. i would say more but i think you get the point lol... maby sometime ill open up a YouTube channel telling people my story Smile
pleases excuse my english Smile and thank you for welcoming me

Thank you, your English was fine.
I figured as much. Seems like it was just another war tailor made to profit the US after all.
Like I've said before; Saddam needed to be taken down but not with the methods used and not for the reasons he was.
Saddam should of been taken down for what he was doing to his own people. Not for the oil in his possession.
As for the methods... well you already know about them, I'm sorry.

If you don't consider it too personal could you tell us your experience of the US? Don't worry, you don't need to be flattering. Theres no rednecks here as far as I know, plus I've never even been the US.
yeah you are correct they didn't use good tactics to take him down but at least during Saddam we could openly say that you are christian, Sunni or Shi'ite and have those kind of freedoms and we had electricity and etc....
but i still have much respect for the soldures they were fighting for their country Smile and didn't know much
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#23
RE: hello from an iraqi atheist.... rare lol
(July 22, 2012 at 5:50 am)RaphielDrake Wrote:
(July 21, 2012 at 5:54 pm)finalyawake Wrote: well about the war..... it is true allot of the soldures are just horrible people women got raped and all sorts of horrible things... most of the people that were labeled as terrorists were just normal people like you and me who didn't want to leave their home and got shot for that like in fallujah. Also religious freedom went away before the war believe it or not our neighbors were Christians and allot of Sunnis and Shi'ites lived together and even in our government we had Sunni Muslims Shi'ite Muslims and Christians.... the most famous being Tariq Aziz. but know every thing changed we are all discriminated against and you get killed depending on what type of Muslim you are... our new "free" government to me is nothing more than a slave to Iran. now i don't really see a united future for the country and about our side actually Iraq defeating saddam was the easy part really most of the time you spent fighting insurgents and most of those insurgents are not even Iraqi! most alqaida fighters are usually from outside the country and most suicide bombers are from Saudi Arabia even though western Iraq in cities such as fallujah. but for the Shi'ites on the other case most fighters were Iraqi. both sides ruined us.
and on the other story when i was a child i always was thinking about religion and at one point i hate full hate towards Jews. things changed and i started looking into things when i came to the USA i looked into Buddhism, Christianity and all the major religions except Hinduism. after that i saw many flaws in the quran and started to realize that the quran the hadiths and the prophet were not the things i thought they were. i would say more but i think you get the point lol... maby sometime ill open up a YouTube channel telling people my story Smile
pleases excuse my english Smile and thank you for welcoming me

Thank you, your English was fine.
I figured as much. Seems like it was just another war tailor made to profit the US after all.
Like I've said before; Saddam needed to be taken down but not with the methods used and not for the reasons he was.
Saddam should of been taken down for what he was doing to his own people. Not for the oil in his possession.
As for the methods... well you already know about them, I'm sorry.

If you don't consider it too personal could you tell us your experience of the US? Don't worry, you don't need to be flattering. Theres no rednecks here as far as I know, plus I've never even been the US.

well the first few moths were hard and i had to live what Americans may call the ghetto only for a few moths later we moved out of the big city and went to a sub urban neighborhood which was great plus it was and upper middle class one and not a ghetto so it was a big transition.
as for the people ... in st. Paul or the ghetto lol we lived across the street from a bar and their were constant parties violence and vulgar language not to mention horrible people but know i am actually really fine and i love my freedoms i have i can actually go out in the streets and they would be clean they are not all sandy it isn't so hot and we have safe electricity here in Iraq our electricity is really dangerous to play with... i can express my self dread how i want to etc.... in Iraq if you dress black and black that can get you killed ... even though that's not my style and for the people in st. Paul people were a little on the bad side doing drugs and uneducated but now people are really friendly and we talk to our neighbors and they seem interested in my culture. i have encountered racism but nothing major.
so if some one offers me a castle and millions of dollars in Iraq it still is not as good as life here.
be lucky you live in the west! Smile

(July 22, 2012 at 7:07 pm)Bahraini Wrote: welcome, I'm from Bahrain, I'm glad there is another Arab atheist here, that would give us much to talk about.

hello haha theirs allot of us out their but sadly no one can express that in most Arab counties
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#24
RE: hello from an iraqi atheist.... rare lol
Keif al7hal Wink

I'm one of your (former) Sunni neighbors Smile

Glad you got out. I hope you get to start a wonderful new life here.

Also, feel free to drop me a PM if you like. I've got a feeling that we're not too far off geographically...
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RE: hello from an iraqi atheist.... rare lol
(July 23, 2012 at 3:57 am)apostasin Wrote: Keif al7hal Wink

I'm one of your (former) Sunni neighbors Smile

Glad you got out. I hope you get to start a wonderful new life here.

Also, feel free to drop me a PM if you like. I've got a feeling that we're not too far off geographically...
haha ok i will lol Smile
and what country are u from??? lol
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#26
RE: hello from an iraqi atheist.... rare lol
(July 23, 2012 at 12:45 pm)finalyawake Wrote: haha ok i will lol Smile
and what country are u from??? lol

Saudi Smile
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#27
RE: hello from an iraqi atheist.... rare lol
(July 23, 2012 at 12:49 pm)apostasin Wrote:
(July 23, 2012 at 12:45 pm)finalyawake Wrote: haha ok i will lol Smile
and what country are u from??? lol

Saudi Smile

haha shlownak akhi lol so theirs three of us now.
and by the way i was an iraqi sunni Smile but my mom was shia but who cares about that stuff if you think about it the Sunni Shia problem is one of the reasons it a mess. lol
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#28
RE: hello from an iraqi atheist.... rare lol
(July 23, 2012 at 4:00 pm)finalyawake Wrote: haha shlownak akhi lol so theirs three of us now.

A Bahraini, an Iraqi and a Saudi walk into an Atheist Forum...Big Grin

I'm telling you buddy, nothing but good times ahead!

(July 23, 2012 at 4:00 pm)finalyawake Wrote: and by the way i was an iraqi sunni Smile but my mom was shia but who cares about that stuff if you think about it the Sunni Shia problem is one of the reasons it a mess. lol

Haha so true...

But if you ask me, I'd say it's the Kurds that really got the shaft in this whole deal.
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#29
RE: hello from an iraqi atheist.... rare lol
(July 23, 2012 at 4:50 pm)apostasin Wrote:
(July 23, 2012 at 4:00 pm)finalyawake Wrote: haha shlownak akhi lol so theirs three of us now.

A Bahraini, an Iraqi and a Saudi walk into an Atheist Forum...Big Grin

I'm telling you buddy, nothing but good times ahead!

(July 23, 2012 at 4:00 pm)finalyawake Wrote: haha its funny how if we were Muslims we would probably all hate each other lol its funny how all 3 of us came from really strict Islamic countries rather than those less religious Arab countries. so i join and then a Bahraini comes and a Saudi comes our numbers are rising fast.
one day were gonna kick Islam to the curb and we could finally live in peace.
by the way are you from Riyadh?? lol and when did you leave Saudi?? Smile


Haha so true...

But if you ask me, I'd say it's the Kurds that really got the shaft in this whole deal.
yeah Sunnis and Shias are all living in trash and continue fighting each other while the Kurds are over their sitting on the sidelines laughing selling iraqi oil

Although i guess we deserve it lol it wasn't to long ago that we were trying to kill them
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#30
RE: hello from an iraqi atheist.... rare lol
Ahaha, welcome, you're among friends here, and ones who respect your courage at that Smile
Religion is an attempt to answer the philosophical questions of the unphilosophical man.
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