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RE: I can feel your anger
July 31, 2012 at 8:57 pm
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(July 31, 2012 at 8:47 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Allow me to elucidate my position as succinctly as I am able:
We are not justified in positively asserting the existence of anything undetectable.
Yes I know this, it has been said many times.
Would you assert all that has been to proven to exist is only that which does exist?
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 31, 2012 at 8:58 pm
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I think Cthulu just told you precisely what he would say. You can't handle it though:
-because it leaves you nothing to bitch about-
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 31, 2012 at 9:01 pm
(July 31, 2012 at 8:57 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: (July 31, 2012 at 8:47 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Allow me to elucidate my position as succinctly as I am able:
We are not justified in positively asserting the existence of anything undetectable.
Yes I know this, it has been said many times.
Would you assert all that has been to proven to exist is only that which does exist?
No, because that would be fucking idiotic.
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 31, 2012 at 9:03 pm
All it indicates to me is the assumption that humanity is in the position to assess existence in an absolute sense. It's not something I buy into, as it makes no sense.
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 31, 2012 at 9:03 pm
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@Cthulu -hehehe, I think it's pretty epic that you understood this question even though he mistakenly reversed the order of words. Mull that one over again, it's priceless.
All what indicates Sell, what the fuck are you even bitching about? Do you even know?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 31, 2012 at 9:05 pm
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(July 31, 2012 at 9:01 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (July 31, 2012 at 8:57 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: Yes I know this, it has been said many times.
Would you assert all that has been to proven to exist is only that which does exist?
No, because that would be fucking idiotic.
Is all that exists able to obtained/measured/obtained by humanity?
(July 31, 2012 at 9:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote: @Cthulu -hehehe, I think it's pretty epic that you understood this question even though he mistakenly reversed the order of words. Mull that one over again, it's priceless.
All what indicates Sell, what the fuck are you even bitching about? Do you even know?
The fact that you think you have answered my question when you haven't and that you believe I mistakenly ordered the word leads me to believe you really don't get it at all.
Fair enough, people are locked in their way of thinking.
I will take my leave.
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 31, 2012 at 9:10 pm
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I'm sorry, did you actually mean that as written, I thought you were asking a worthwhile question, one that cut to the heart of materialism, something like.
Would you assert all that does exist is only that which has been proven to exist?
-as opposed to-
Would you assert all that has been to proven to exist is only that which does exist?
The former would have something to say about materialism, the latter is just a question as to whether or not we got an answer wrong somewhere.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 31, 2012 at 9:24 pm
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(July 31, 2012 at 9:05 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: (July 31, 2012 at 9:01 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: No, because that would be fucking idiotic.
Is all that exists able to obtained/measured/obtained by humanity?
I'm reasonably comfortable in answering that "no", if for no other reason than there is a limit to how much of the universe is observable given our temporal position.
As to whether or not some specific undiscovered thing would be observable, how the fuck would I know? Furthermore, how would you differentiate that which exists and is undetectable by any means from that which is nonexistent? Things in the former category are, to me, not worth seriously considering at all.
(July 31, 2012 at 9:05 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: The fact that you think you have answered my question when you haven't and that you believe I mistakenly ordered the word leads me to believe you really don't get it at all.
Fair enough, people are locked in their way of thinking.
Considering the number of people that have indicated that you in fact do not understand what they're saying, both here and on other sites...
...have you considered that it might just be you?
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 31, 2012 at 9:39 pm
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There are many agnostics who think the same thing as me. If you went to several creationist forums and were then asked:
Quote:Considering the number of people that have indicated that you in fact do not understand what they're saying, both here and on other sites...
...have you considered that it might just be you?
what would you say?
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RE: I can feel your anger
July 31, 2012 at 9:55 pm
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Why would whether or not someone agrees with you about something have any effect on whether or not you understand a word I've said Sell?
Pro-tip, it wouldn't.
(and for the record, I think you understand me just fine, but I play along as though you didn't anyway, because I like to watch people make an ass of themselves)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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