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RE: Why must Christian apologists tell lies?
September 3, 2012 at 11:01 pm
I think it's also important to point out the difference between what Apologetics could be and what it actually is. Particularly the last century, Christian Apologetics has been a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham.
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RE: Why must Christian apologists tell lies?
September 4, 2012 at 1:26 am
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(September 3, 2012 at 11:01 pm)apophenia Wrote:
I think it's also important to point out the difference between what Apologetics could be and what it actually is. Particularly the last century, Christian Apologetics has been a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham.
Well, at least it's an improvement over Spanish Inquisition style apologetics.
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RE: Why must Christian apologists tell lies?
September 4, 2012 at 3:24 am
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The Christians who aren't ignorant about certain things, tend of the personality type I would describe as the slimy dishonest used car salesman. William Lane Craig is definitely that type of person.
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RE: Why must Christian apologists tell lies?
September 4, 2012 at 8:32 am
(September 4, 2012 at 3:24 am)Justtristo Wrote: The Christians who aren't ignorant about certain things, tend of the personality type I would describe as the slimy dishonest used car salesman. William Lane Craig is definitely that type of person.
I think you owe all slimy dishonest used car salesmen an apology for that comparison.
At least the used car is always real.
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RE: Why must Christian apologists tell lies?
September 4, 2012 at 8:33 am
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RE: Why must Christian apologists tell lies?
September 5, 2012 at 1:36 am
(September 4, 2012 at 8:32 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: (September 4, 2012 at 3:24 am)Justtristo Wrote: The Christians who aren't ignorant about certain things, tend of the personality type I would describe as the slimy dishonest used car salesman. William Lane Craig is definitely that type of person.
I think you owe all slimy dishonest used car salesmen an apology for that comparison.
At least the used car is always real.
I feel I dont need to, because regardless if the product is real or not. The manner "silmy used car salesmen" and apologists like William Lane Craig sell their product is practically identical.
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RE: Why must Christian apologists tell lies?
September 5, 2012 at 2:21 am
(September 5, 2012 at 1:36 am)Justtristo Wrote: (September 4, 2012 at 8:32 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: I think you owe all slimy dishonest used car salesmen an apology for that comparison.
At least the used car is always real.
I feel I dont need to, because regardless if the product is real or not. The manner "silmy used car salesmen" and apologists like William Lane Craig sell their product is practically identical.
I feel the same way about William Lane Craig. I hate the sight of him. His voice makes me feel like puking. He really is the most dishonest chap I know. I have caught him telling lies on many occasions. I'm really angry with some of his opponents in a debate. Some of them didn't prepare and they made asses of themselves. One such debate was with Hitchens. Hitchens was so ill prepared that he didn't address the points raised by Craig. As far as the debate went, Hitchens lost in disgrace. I really wish I could have the opportunity of debating with Craig. I would make mincemeat of him and feed him to my pet dog.
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RE: Why must Christian apologists tell lies?
September 5, 2012 at 7:13 am
(September 5, 2012 at 1:36 am)Justtristo Wrote: (September 4, 2012 at 8:32 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: I think you owe all slimy dishonest used car salesmen an apology for that comparison.
At least the used car is always real.
I feel I dont need to, because regardless if the product is real or not. The manner "silmy used car salesmen" and apologists like William Lane Craig sell their product is practically identical.
It was a joke.
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RE: Why must Christian apologists tell lies?
September 5, 2012 at 8:09 am
(September 5, 2012 at 7:13 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: (September 5, 2012 at 1:36 am)Justtristo Wrote: I feel I dont need to, because regardless if the product is real or not. The manner "silmy used car salesmen" and apologists like William Lane Craig sell their product is practically identical.
It was a joke.
I personally experienced through discussion forums and online chat, it is very difficult to identify certain forms of humor, unless the person puts a symbol like this at ;-)
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RE: Why must Christian apologists tell lies?
September 5, 2012 at 8:13 am
Ah, Poe's Law
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