(September 7, 2012 at 9:16 pm)Polaris Wrote:(September 7, 2012 at 3:08 pm)Chuck Wrote: Just because you are christain and perhaps bigoted for her religious views doesn't mean you should trivialize everyone else's reason for saying both you and her should shut up.
I did not trivialize the part about people telling me to shut up, you fucking liar.
When we tell you that ALL humans WILL get ill regardless of class, and then you call us "jealous" which is your own projectionism and not anything remotely pragmatic or close to the truth you make yourself look like a liar.
FACT, genes, bacteria, viruses, accidents, and all forms of illness are because we are human and everyone to a verying degree at some point in life will get ill. THAT IS A FACT. Nature and biology don't give one fuck what our paychecks look like.
I find it sick that anyone would think that what happens to all humans should be subject to the ability to pay. Should we do that with firemen and police as well? "FUCK YOU" if you are poor, we will let your house burn down.If you get robbed and you ar a poor old lady, we wont respond to the call".
Should I have the same attitude if I drive past a smashed BMW with a rich guy bleeding in the street? "Fuck you rich guy, I'm not calling the EMTS you deserve to die for being so selfish"? Sounds absurd right?
Funny how I have more compassion for my fellow human than you do.
ANN an her ilk are the ones making class the issue. I happen to have more compassion for her than her party has for us. Unlike her, if she and Romney suddly lost all their weath I wouldn't say "oh well, sucks to be you".
There are simply some things in life that all humans have in common, and being able to get medical care is a need WE ALL HAVE. For a party that pontificates about the value of life, the Republican party puts a sick and selective price on it "well, all life is valuable, unless you are poor, then you are just garbage".
I am just as ashamed of our species when an atheist says the same shit "fuck you, I got mine".
Life is a range and enequaty in an open market has to happen. But heath care is something all of us will need. We as a collective society make things worse when the least amonst us economically get pushed down further.
A stable economy is not all rich or all poor, but one that keeps the cost gap reasonable so that all can survive. The more ability to make ends meet the better all of us are. We as a nation spend the MOST on health care out of all the westernized nations, but have the highest cost which is expoding for one reason and one reason only, GREED.
There is no reason a tooth brush a hospitle orders which you could buy at a dollar store cost 15 bucks. There is no reason the middle class and or working poor should have to use the emergancy room for their primary care.
If you are going to take the position that life is valuable, then you are a complete hypocrite to cherry pick which class is more important when we all need health care.
So the issue isn't that we both want afordable heath care for all, the issue is HOW we go about doing that. Giving tax breaks to billionairs and tax breaks to big pharma and big insurance, is what we have been doing. I think it would be wiser to stop doing what has not worked.