Gullibility - a key to heaven?

[Mystic]

To be clear, my argument is that only some Christians/Muslims need to be gullible. And that some will believe out of gullibility. This makes the minimum requirement, gullibility, even if the religion has intellectual proofs.

[Dumac Dwarfking]

To be clear, my argument is that only some Christians/Muslims need to be gullible. And that some will believe out of gullibility. This makes the minimum requirement, gullibility, even if the religion has intellectual proofs.

I've compiled a list of such religions
























*end of list*

[Anomalocaris]

An impressively exhaustive list.

[Ryantology]

Wait, you forgot one:

[Norfolk And Chance]

Man has no control over the people of the Southern Baptist Church, and if you believe differently then please give me some proof.

Proof?



Since when have you cared about proof?

[SeekerOfKnowledge]

Although it can be argued that not all believers in Christianity and Islam are gullible, it can be argued that it's all that is required to accept Christianity and Islam or that it can be the primary factor (along with bias).

What I mean by that, is that since believers are promised paradise, many believers can be gullible people. It cannot be argued that every single believer has not believed out of gullibility.

But then if gullibility can lead to belief, then why is belief always praised?

Because logic is evil and corrupts the mind. D:
And blind faith is rewarded.

Most likely a tribal things started at the dawn of human evolution.
'If you want food, you must pray to rock god.
If you no pray, you no get food.'

Well, obviously food is good and everyone wants food. But not everyone wants to worship rock god. Those who don't worship rock god get seperated from the rest of the tribe and are talked down upon and exiled. Therefore, social conditioning is made. Fit in or die.

This is all theortetical on my part to try and make sense of it. haha


Actually, spongebob's magic conch episode really helps put things into perspective.

[catfish]

Gullibility is not unique to believers....I notice a lot of American atheists are quite gullible as well such as those who believe in the Jesus myth cookie cutter formula....aka just copy the same key facts and keep on applying it to gods from other religions.....the actual stories have nothing in common with those "facts," but given how many times I have seen them used, there must be plenty of idiots that believe it.

So you are saying we are wrong for believing Jesus is a myth as well as believing all other god's or religions are mythical or made up in nature? If we rejected the christian bible as truth even though it is the only literal text of god wouldn't that imply that the other religions and gods are wrong also? Or are you saying that we can dismiss christian religion but not others for they may be right?

See? This is why he nailed your nature before you even responded...
The Bible doesn't claim to be the "litteral text of god", now does it? I'm sure evilbible.com makes that claim though. Is that where you get your opinions from?

[theeleven]

Because, if the idea is control, gullibility among the masses is to be promoted as a virtue, as long as that gullibility does not extend to any opposing system of belief or non-belief.

The above bold is by me, what control, by whom and for what purpose. This control stuff comes up all the time, I think it's time someone explained what is meant by it, or if you all are just repeating something you've heard. I've been a part of the Church for a long time and I do not know of any control going on.

See this is why religious people are so easily led. Think about your logic...If you knew you were being controlled you would realize that you were only a sheep in the herd. Ever wondered why they refer to Jesus as your shepherd? Also, you should logically think through the fact that faith is they're only answer to every criticism upon their beliefs. Would you believe that if you closed your eyes on the highway for one whole minute while driving on the highway you wouldn't have an accident because you had faith in your safety?

[Godscreated]

The above bold is by me, what control, by whom and for what purpose. This control stuff comes up all the time, I think it's time someone explained what is meant by it, or if you all are just repeating something you've heard. I've been a part of the Church for a long time and I do not know of any control going on.

See this is why religious people are so easily led. Think about your logic...If you knew you were being controlled you would realize that you were only a sheep in the herd. Ever wondered why they refer to Jesus as your shepherd? Also, you should logically think through the fact that faith is they're only answer to every criticism upon their beliefs. Would you believe that if you closed your eyes on the highway for one whole minute while driving on the highway you wouldn't have an accident because you had faith in your safety?

One thing I will say for us Christians we do know better than to drive down the road with our eyes closed, please let me know when you're going to be driving, you scare me.
Now for the serious side of things, you need to go and study what the shepherds of old were all about, then you might change your mind about why Christ is called our shepherd, probably not, you wouldn't be interested in the truth. I use far more than faith to defend my knowing that Christ is my savior. Now back to your driving assertion, if I put faith in my ability to drive with my eyes closed I would be foolish, and deserve to have an accident. However to have faith in an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent God makes complete sense, even if you do not see it that way.

[The Grand Nudger]

I use far more than faith to defend my knowing that Christ is my savior.

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