Apology

[Reasonable_Jeff]

I appreciate the candid responses.

I've put up barriers in the past to really engaging with any atheists, dismissing them as simply not wanting to be held accountable to a higher power or wanting to be "gods" of their own lives.

I've realized that it was a caricature and "repenting" of it.

I feel remorse for my fellow Christians that treat atheists poorly and expressed it in the OP.

I do NOT recant my belief in Jesus as my Savior and Redeemer, but I have not treated atheists as Jesus has asked me to treat people.

The apology was sincere and not intended as a ploy or insult.

[zappa1258]

Your apology means NOTHING to me. You believe in myths. Why would you think it matters what you or any other self deluded Christian thinks is beyond me. I dont even read a Christian's post unless he has woke up to see he has been spewing out bullshit.

[frankiej]

I understand why you feel the need to apologise, but it isn't necessary.

It is nice to have a polite Christian around though.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

I appreciate the candid responses.

I've put up barriers in the past to really engaging with any atheists, dismissing them as simply not wanting to be held accountable to a higher power or wanting to be "gods" of their own lives.

I've realized that it was a caricature and "repenting" of it.

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Why do you think we're atheists then? If you reject the caricature (the caricature that we know God exists and are just denying it because we don't like God), then you're admitting that we're convinced Christianity is false because of reason and science. Obviously if the Christian God exists, and atheists are not convinced convinced of this fact then it's because we atheists have reasoned incorrectly. It'd be simple error on our part that we're not aware of. If that is so, God would be condemning us because of an error of judgement, an error caused by our mental faculties. Who designed our mental faculties? God did. Therefore God is to blame for our rejection of him.

Reconsidering the whole "atheists are just rebels" argument now?

[Cinjin]

It is nice to have a polite Christian around though.

Exactly frankiej. There's plenty of pretentious a-hole christians to do battle with on a daily basis. This guy jeff and his silly apology are not worthy of all this butthurt hostility. I mean seriously crate, get a grip. If this is how you react to a pointless apology, I can't imagine the explosion in your head upon being told that you're going to hell by GC.


At any rate people, no one said you're not "allowed" to be offended, but jesus fucking christ - calm down. Jeff may be a simpleton but at least he's got a polite disposition. Pick your battles better.

[The Grand Nudger]

I appreciate the candid responses.

I've put up barriers in the past to really engaging with any atheists, dismissing them as simply not wanting to be held accountable to a higher power or wanting to be "gods" of their own lives.

Believe it's christians proposing the get out of jail free card, hadn't heard any atheists stumping that one. I do good things, I do bad things, I own both sides of myself.

I've realized that it was a caricature and "repenting" of it.

It's not a caricature because it isn't exaggeration, its flat out fabrication. Whole different ballpark.

I feel remorse for my fellow Christians that treat atheists poorly and expressed it in the OP.

Meh, I wouldn't worry too much about them, handle your own business eh?

I do NOT recant my belief in Jesus as my Savior and Redeemer, but I have not treated atheists as Jesus has asked me to treat people.

The apology was sincere and not intended as a ploy or insult.

Similarly I stand by my assessment of your apology as insulting. Don't tell me you're sorry we heard y'all, or you're sorry that y'all may have exaggerated this or that. If you want to apologize try "whoops, I was wrong, not exaggerating, wrong".

[jonb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmcu5Y8p4fA

[Cinjin]

but your so whipped, your too cowardly to stand up for what you know is true. Do you think by being the biggest pussy in the world people will love you?

lol - yeah that's my problem. LMAO, I try to be a pussy so people will like me. just idiotic. lol

I don't know who I should pity more, the theist for believing in fairiy tales? Or you for being so weak ,cowardly, and pathetic you can't even work up the nerve to call them, what they are......

Actually, I invented the word christard ... well, at least on this site, and I'm reasonably sure that nearly anyone who's been a member here for more than 3 months can vouch for my disdain for all things christian. That doesn't mean that I lose my cool and completely go ape-shit at the drop of a hat whenever one of them utters the slightest word.

The only person I see being weak and cowardly is you. Hiding behind your keyboard, filled with the bravado that comes with anonymity, you toss insults like a tough guy at someone who did nothing more than offer a misguided apology. You're more deluded than anyone that is the target of your derision if you believe your behavior has shown you to be anything but a spineless bully who thinks berating others will somehow prove his superiority.

what are you talking about? would you like my home address I'll email it to you................ better yet I have a car, I'll drive to you

Please email or PM it to me tough guy. I would be more than happy to discuss this matter in person.
Perhaps you could drive up to Grand Rapids, Michigan and we could share a beer while you tell me how many people you've beaten up after driving across the country to meet them. Are you really strong too? Do you have a lot of scary tattoos? Big muscles?

If I don't receive your name and home address within a couple days I'll assume that like every other cyber-tuff, you're full of shit.

[jonb]

Sorry Cinjin me not being clear, I'm the one with the emotional response, that is just doing the blame stuff.

'But I be ever so humble master Copperfield'
sets my teeth on edge.

And you know he hates me because he won't do anything about the paper clip, the one practical thing he could do.

[Polaris]

Knight. The issue is that a few bad eggs spoil the rest......when the bad eggs also happen to be the ones leading congregations, then it is doubly (well much more actually) worse.

Thanks for the extreme dose of irony crate.

Okay by "extreme dose of irony" I'm assuming you again mean troll, so I repeat................. fuck off polaris

No. You called the Christians retarded. Bush is more intelligent than you.