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RE: Church state question
September 22, 2012 at 1:06 pm
Normally when someone says something like this, it takes very little digging around in the garden to find the loads and loads of bullshit poorly buried.
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RE: Church state question
September 22, 2012 at 1:09 pm
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It's not even buried; it's just been painted with tatty faux-gold leaf and passed off as priceless jewellery. Still stinks.
(Sorry to steal your metaphor)
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Church state question
September 23, 2012 at 7:24 am
After calling 'in the year of our lord' as proof of christian origins and quoting the Mayflower Compact, etc I basically said further discussion was pointless.
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RE: Church state question
September 23, 2012 at 6:31 pm
I can only speak for the intent of the foundes of the United States. They never precluced religious people from running from office. But when you look at the way they wrote the first Amendment and the oath of office "no relgigious test".there is no way they intended on a religious peclking order.
Add to that the Barbary Treaty AFTER THE FACT, of the signing of the Constitution, singed without dissent by both houses of congress and by President John Adams "As the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion"..
Christians even on the left mistake the majoraty in or history as bieng an intitlement to absolute power. The founders were NOT against freedom of religion. They were against monopolies of power that would create pecking orders.
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RE: Church state question
September 23, 2012 at 9:19 pm
(September 23, 2012 at 5:44 pm)cratehorus Wrote: The Founding Fathers were not Christian and as "The 1796 Treaty with Tripoli states that the United States was 'not in any sense founded on the Christian religion"
http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html
Careful about quoting treaties. They often lie.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Church state question
September 24, 2012 at 9:48 am
Unless they happen to support your own particular view, of course.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
