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"In any crime - follow the money"
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In Poland everyone pays a church tax, according to a Polish friend.
Well guess you have never been a member of a club where they have dues.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
 (September 29, 2012 at 11:23 am)5thHorseman Wrote: In Poland everyone pays a church tax, according to a Polish friend. Everyone? Even people who are not members? If that's the case, that's bull shit and I officially declare my painfully religious country still better than Poland. 
 (September 29, 2012 at 11:25 am)Polaris Wrote: Well guess you have never been a member of a club where they have dues. How many other clubs convince you that your soul is in danger of eternal torture and punishment if redemption is not sought while simultaneously denying your ability to gain that redemption if you do not pay a fee? That's extortion, plain and simple.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
 RE: "In any crime - follow the money"
September 29, 2012 at 5:41 pm
(This post was last modified: September 29, 2012 at 5:41 pm by Minimalist.)
church taxes exist in quite a few countries in Europe, and are sometimes required for church weddings and burials.
There's been lots on the news in Europe, it seems the Church is trying to raise more cash. But at face value it looks like the church is shooting itself in the foot, as many of the apathetic/lapsed Catholics will be excommunicated (although they avoid using that term). Atheism is the largest "religion" in Germany, followed by Catholicism and Protestantism (mostly Lutheran I'd guess - anyone know?) with only 1% between them. Maybe now Protestantism will creep ahead in the stats, and Atheism will gain in its lead. blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” – John 20:26-29
RE: "In any crime - follow the money"
September 29, 2012 at 6:04 pm
(This post was last modified: September 29, 2012 at 6:05 pm by Polaris.)
(September 29, 2012 at 5:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(September 29, 2012 at 11:25 am)Polaris Wrote: Well guess you have never been a member of a club where they have dues. What kind of club have you been a member of then that collected dues? Yeah. Voluntary if you want to remain an active member of the club. If you don't want to pay, then you get kicked out.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
 RE: "In any crime - follow the money"
September 29, 2012 at 7:05 pm
(This post was last modified: September 29, 2012 at 7:06 pm by Darkstar.)
(September 29, 2012 at 6:04 pm)Polaris Wrote: What kind of club have you been a member of then that collected dues? Yeah. Voluntary if you want to remain an active member of the club. If you don't want to pay, then you get kicked out. The point he's trying to make is that normal clubs don't tell you that you are going to face eternal damnation if you don't remain an active member, and remain totally obedient to their figurehead. That is called a cult. I think the word 'cult' has come to be associated with the suicidal ones, but it doesn't have to be suicidal to be a cult. John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion. 
I guess even god cannot get money without going through the Federal Reserve.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things. -- Ned Flanders Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral. -- The Rev Lovejoy |
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