I need facts for evolution.

[manno]

Hello, AF community. Excuse my long rant. I stumble across this forum today, and I was intrigue by the many response from atheist or "rationalist". I am a man just seeking the truth. This forum seems like a good source of intellectuals who might be able to enlighten me on evolution (or the reason there is no God). I'll tell you all upfront that I am a Christian, and of a Christian background. Don't let that deter you. I am open minded, and open to all views, so long it is accurate. I just wants some convincing that evolution is true, if indeed it's true. I want cold, hard facts, not speculation, that can be proven using scientific principles: observable, repeatable, falsifiable, etc. Many atheist I know never provide solid reasons for their belief, but simply say "I haven't studied it indept ", and refers to the scientists who have. It seems everyone is pointing to someone else for the evidence. The atheist point to scientist, the scientist point to the anthropologist, the anthropologist point to the biologist, and so on. Give me the evidences (One by one, please. I'm not a machine) so I can discern for myself what is truth. Thank you.

[The Grand Nudger]

Evolution isn't any reason that there is no god (it's not really a "reason" for anything..at least not the way we normally use the word). Cold hard facts for the cold hard fact of evolution? You have a particular theory in mind? I can do you one better than giving you the evidence...I could suggest an experiment. You have any luck growing potted plants?

[Minimalist]

Here.

http://talkorigins.org/origins/faqs.html

Enjoy.

[Kayenneh]

How much do you know about DNA, how much biology have you studied?

Many atheist I know never provide solid reasons for their belief, but simply say "I haven't studied it indept ", and refers to the scientists who have.

Actually, all atheists are not biologists, so to say "I don't know, but I do know someone who does" is an intellectually honest answer. You wouldn't ask a cosmetologist to fix your electrical wiring, so why frown when people refer to experts?

(And welcome to AF, btw!)

[Anomalocaris]

. I want cold, hard facts, not speculation, that can be proven using scientific principles: observable, repeatable, falsifiable, etc.

If you do not rigorously apply those standards to examining the claims underpinning your own christian beliefs, then you lack the intellectual honesty to make anything of cold, hard facts even when they are presented you. So it is disingenuous of you to ask.

But if you are genuinely intellectually honest, then it's hard to see why it wouldn't be more satisfying to learn the facts underpinning evolution from the mouth of scientists who knows it best. So please don't pretend to ask us as an excuse to engage in typical airy idiotically confident christian exercises in self-satisfied sophistry. Find out the facts yourself. There are large volume of high quality, scientifically vetted popular literature, many adapted to even the meanest understanding.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

Read "Why Evolution Is True" by Jerry A. Coyne.

[frankiej]

Why not go to a local book store, go to the science section and find a book? Is that not easier than asking other people?

[Kayenneh]

This is a really good one too

[Nine]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesiz...rev3.shtml

This is pretty simple evidence here.

[Whatkins]

There are no reasons for the non-existence of a god ("reason" isn't really compatible here). We can only analyse what we see around us using our own mental faculties and navigate whether these things came (or could have come) from a superior maker.

Nobody can disprove the existence of a god for the same reasons that nobody can prove it. The very nature of a supposed god forbids us to do so. In the meantime, something pretty strong can be said about the probability.

Minimalist provided a link to Talk Origins for you - I want to stress the importance of that site. It is a pretty concise archive of different arguments and elaborations that you might find helpful.

Footnote: Atheism is the rejection of a god-claim. Nothing more. It is not a belief that is opposite to that of a theist, it is unbelief. Kindly keep this in mind when you chat with your atheist friends again. And welcome!