Ask, Seek, Knock

[Angrboda]

You Christians have your horrific, offensive, insufferable lies so bollocksed up over one another you're constantly tripping over your own lies. It's like when I was young, and my father would take me fishing and ask me to unwind a rat's nest of fishing line that had got all balled up. Inevitably, these rat's nests ended up in the drink (god knows how?), and that I would advise of you, is to toss it all in the drink. But you will not do this. Not because you think that your god cannot err, but because you believe you did not err.

I make mistakes all of the time. and I have absolutly admitting them. Even on this website infront of you 'good people.'

You're missing a word here to qualify how easy or difficult it is for you to admit mistakes. I find that far from accidental. Perhaps God is trying to tell you something.

Freudian slip!

I hope you die in a fire. Painfully. To think you can even speculate on what I "might do".

first thing is first, know in your heart of hearts I was not talking to you, but it would not be difficult to predict what you have done either. I know you may want to seem independant of soceity given the 'warrior/ronin' image you are trying to project, but you would have been a sheep of soceity as well. For you as a female ( I am assumeing this based on your profile pic alone) would have been beaten into your role that that soceity had planned for you, or you would have been stonned or sold as a slave. You currently enjoy a freedom that simply did not exist then.

Every girl has her Rubicon, baby. Even me. Like most ignorant folk, you confuse average probability with per event probability, and loiter in the valley of error and destruction.

For what it's worth, there were plenty of strong women at that time as well as this. I'd simply mention Hypatia, but you Christians killed her. I'd say that evens the score for the death of your stick figure god. Does the bible not say an eye for an eye?

(For those playing the home game, this is yet another error by Drich.)

God, even. I thought that was the point of free will, that the potential for good is always there.

Not in that soceity. For one's 'will' was determined by their social standing/importance.

So wait, does free will come from society, or from God?

This is hybris, which formed the core of Greek tragedy, as the Greeks, sensible, knew that those possessed of this hybris, were destined to burn in the end. You likewise, will burn in the end, even if your God is real, because you don't know enough to, "Let go and let God."

Let go and let God what?

Leggo my Eggo.



By the way, I'm willing to let go of the "in a fire" part of the equation now, as I suspect doing so will increase the odds of your dying sooner. (eschewing the conjunctive probability)

[Faith No More]

You feel this incessant need to speak on his behalf, yet I see no wings upon you. Whence comes your authority? I think it cometh not; only arrogance, and presumption.

You're wasting your energy, apo. He will never be convinced that his arrogance is anything but a mission sanctioned by Yaweh, and he will never be convinced that he is doing anything but showing the utmost humility. It's best just not to respond, because pointing out his arrogance only seems to strengthen his resolve and reinforce his notion that he is a persecuted martyr for his cause.

[Mystic]

Well from his perspective, he is doing us a favor. Anyways, what's the line between healthy pride and arrogance? Arrogance is just a word for too much pride, but is there even a level of too much pride (hence is a loaded word implying there is a limit on how much pride we should have), and if there is, what exactly is that limit or ball park understanding of that limit?

[Faith No More]

The very height of arrogance is to believe you are on a mission sanctioned by a deity, and that everyone that hasn't received said message is just looking in an incorrect manner and living their life wrong. On the extremely small chance that there truly is a deity, how we live our lives are between us and it, not some jerk on the internet that thinks he's figured all of life's mysteries out.

[Tino]

Actually they do not have a collection they just have envolpes by the door for those who want to give.

How much do you typically donate? What do you think the average is?

[Cyberman]

The very height of arrogance is to believe you are on a mission sanctioned by a deity, and that everyone that hasn't received said message is just looking in an incorrect manner and living their life wrong. On the extremely small chance that there truly is a deity, how we live our lives are between us and it, not some jerk on the internet that thinks he's figured all of life's mysteries out.

This. Absolutely this. For those who do engage in such behaviour, it's little (if anything) more than an ego trip in fancy dress; an opportunity for people of little self-worth to make themselves feel special, chosen, better than everyone else. As a wise man once said, "They're just using religion as an excuse to be extremely crappy towards each other."

What's really sad about the whole exercise is that more often than not and before too long, such people become so addicted to their 'holy mission' that even to consider the possibility they may be wrong becomes a major threat. After all, once the bubble of their delusion is burst, there's a danger that all their little insecurities might come tumbling out and they might, just might, have to come face to face with the terrifying prospect that they're just as human as everybody else.

[Anomalocaris]

What is Christianity but a artifice to buy the obedience of people without sense, learning, and discernment by implying they have a surplus of all three?

[Drich]

You're missing a word here to qualify how easy or difficult it is for you to admit mistakes. I find that far from accidental. Perhaps God is trying to tell you something.

One girls freudian slip is another man's sacerfical lamb. eitherway I have an oppertunity to acknoweledge the mistake.

Every girl has her Rubicon, baby. Even me. Like most ignorant folk, you confuse average probability with per event probability, and loiter in the valley of error and destruction.

what? your going to have to dumb it down a little you've lost me.

For what it's worth, there were plenty of strong women at that time as well as this. I'd simply mention Hypatia,

Then I'd point out you've missed the time period we are speaking of by about 300 years.

but you Christians killed her. I'd say that evens the score for the death of your stick figure god. Does the bible not say an eye for an eye?

In light of this new fact that I presented I'll let you retract this statement. Otherwise "an eye for an eye" could be used to excuse Hypatia's unjust death.

(For those playing the home game, this is yet another error by Drich.)

you've misspelled "apophenia"

So wait, does free will come from society, or from God?

Do slaves have free will? Does God directly own slaves or do higher members of soceity own slaves?

Leggo my Eggo.

Does this mean you don't know?

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[quote='Tino' pid='349208' dateline='1350235423']
How much do you typically donate?

less than 1/2 of what I should.

What do you think the average is?

I don't know.

[Mystic]

The very height of arrogance is to believe you are on a mission sanctioned by a deity, and that everyone that hasn't received said message is just looking in an incorrect manner and living their life wrong. On the extremely small chance that there truly is a deity, how we live our lives are between us and it, not some jerk on the internet that thinks he's figured all of life's mysteries out.

This. Absolutely this. For those who do engage in such behaviour, it's little (if anything) more than an ego trip in fancy dress; an opportunity for people of little self-worth to make themselves feel special, chosen, better than everyone else. As a wise man once said, "They're just using religion as an excuse to be extremely crappy towards each other."

What's really sad about the whole exercise is that more often than not and before too long, such people become so addicted to their 'holy mission' that even to consider the possibility they may be wrong becomes a major threat. After all, once the bubble of their delusion is burst, there's a danger that all their little insecurities might come tumbling out and they might, just might, have to come face to face with the terrifying prospect that they're just as human as everybody else.

It's funny how each side sees each other as arrogant.

[Darkstar]

If God sets one model for prayer and you do your own thing then yes You did it wrong. If your tired of hearing you did it wrong then do it right.

It doesn't matter if you do it right. God can still arbitrarily decide you have to pray more, or decide he doesn't want to answer it. Even if you do it 'right' your whole life, prayers may never be answered because god wants you to wait longer or doesn't feel like answering them, and you would never know.

take away the a/c and super markets and then see where our nature lies. why do you think there are so many violent crimes outside of the neighborhoods that these two luxuary items are not found in? You repersent less than 10% of the worlds population. and you have not accounted for anyone outside of you 'comfort zone.' Now who's statement is loosing hair?

Yours. Air conditioning and supermarkets are irrelated to human nature. People fought in the past for survival. Now that people don't have to fight, they don't want to nearly as much. If given the choice between peace and an unnecessary war, all but the most bloodthirsty would choose peace.

Do slaves have free will? Does God directly own slaves or do higher members of soceity own slaves?

The bible condones slavery...