Do you believe in marriage?

[Drich]

I admire that you took that baggage on.

I didn't know when we got married I found out about 6 months into it that 'a problem from her past' resurfaced.
she had some dental work done just before the wedding and they gave her an opieate which kickedoff a series of events that turned a couple f-ck buddies/roomates into Husband and Wife.

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Addicts are always addicts, some just enter recovery. That being said, I have to give you props for sticking it out, that's not easy.

It wasn't me. I was a wreck who yelled and screamed, and trailer parked myself through 4 years of what seemed like Hell at the time. 'We' both learned the meaning of repentance and what it means to be a slave to sin. By repentance I do not mean "i'm sorry, I'll never do it again please forgive me.." That is not repentance. True repentance is to be broken spiritually over something you can not help yourself from doing, yet you do it anyway.(Paul also says this in Romans8) I saw this in her. She taught me how to repent for my sins. If I repented of my sin, and expected God to forgive me, then how could I not forgive her if she repented and yet fell back into her sin/drug of choice? Then a whole miriad of verses came into focous. Our salvation our relationship with God is contengent on our ablity to forgive others. Or so says Christ in the parable of the unmerciful servant.

I appreciate your observation, but know that i did not "stick things out" I was loved, and inturn tried to relay the love shown me to my wife. As a result of her own efforts with God (recovery here is a joke it's where dealers seek out new customers) she has been 6 years clean/sober.

[Lion IRC]

You used to have a heroin habit? Suppose you got saved after that did you?

Would have been easier to not have a habit in the first place and be atheist.

By the way, if you're not getting enough sex - your marriage is fucked.

Quote-mining this for future reference.
Thanks.

Male atheist telling how it is.

[festive1]

It wasn't me. I was a wreck who yelled and screamed, and trailer parked myself through 4 years of what seemed like Hell at the time. 'We' both learned the meaning of repentance and what it means to be a slave to sin. By repentance I do not mean "i'm sorry, I'll never do it again please forgive me.." That is not repentance. True repentance is to be broken spiritually over something you can not help yourself from doing, yet you do it anyway.(Paul also says this in Romans8) I saw this in her. She taught me how to repent for my sins. If I repented of my sin, and expected God to forgive me, then how could I not forgive her if she repented and yet fell back into her sin/drug of choice? Then a whole miriad of verses came into focous. Our salvation our relationship with God is contengent on our ablity to forgive others. Or so says Christ in the parable of the unmerciful servant.
I appreciate your observation, but know that i did not "stick things out" I was loved, and inturn tried to relay the love shown me to my wife. As a result of her own efforts with God (recovery here is a joke it's where dealers seek out new customers) she has been 6 years clean/sober.

As the child of an alcoholic, I have an intimate understanding of addiction and recovery. I sincerely wish her and you all the best. But as an atheist, I say recovery can be found without god.

[Polaris]

I believe in respecting marriage. I think it is quite wrong to knowingly and willingly destroy a marriage for personal gain.

[Ryantology]

Marriage is one of the best oppertunities for one to learn what true love is.

I agree, and it should not be an opportunity denied to any group of mutually-consenting and loving adults who desire it.

[Kayenneh]

I'm in a wonderful relationship with a man that I respect and he respects me. We live together, have mutual interests and friends (but also things we can do on our own and friends of our own). If I had the legal benefits of being married, I would never feel the need to marry him, because nothing is going to change (besides my surname) once we sign all the necessary papers. But since we both want the benefits, we are going to get married in the near future.

[KichigaiNeko]

No. I do not "believe in marriage"

As far as I am to understand, this marriage thingy is nothing more than a social contract that will ensure both parties will easily inherit property, goods and chattel from their union should one or the other dies. This being extended to all offspring of the union.

There is no need for "belief", it is written in law and has probably been in society for as long as man has walked the earth. (which would be a lot longer than the abrahamic religions would have us "believe")

Our laws currently demand that a couple should be married to indisputably benefit LEGALLY from the union. This being instigated via religion and a burden on those who have no need for it.

Otherwise it is a foolish person that thinks it is more than a societal contract.

[zebo-the-fat]

Married 23 years (to the same woman!), never cheated, never needed to. We have both been married before, I was too young and let my balls rule my brain, she was with an abusive man. We both learned the hard way what works and what doesn't. My main problem now is to find something very special for our 25th aniversery, (25th aniversery, my 60th birthday and her 50th all in the same year... a bunch of flowers just won't be enough!)

(It was a registry office wedding, no god botherers involved)

[KichigaiNeko]

Take her Sky diving zebo!! You following of course!!

[zebo-the-fat]

Take her Sky diving zebo!! You following of course!!

Done that, one of the first things I ever asked her was "Do you fancy a jump?!