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RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 28, 2012 at 9:35 pm
(October 28, 2012 at 3:48 pm)Darkstar Wrote: ...you didn't read it, did you?
Let me show it one more time:
Quote:The silted up harbour on the south side of the peninsula has been excavated by the French Institute for Archaeology in the Near East, but most of the remains of the Phoenician period still lie beneath the present town.
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When you say 'the city has not been excavated', it is misleading. Most of the city has not been excavated, but part of it has been. Therefore we have found the city, even if we have not excavated the whole thing, we know it is there because we found part of it. Yes, I am talking about the Phonecian original Tyre, not the Roman one. It says so right in the quote. Most of the Phonecian Tyre has not been excavated, but some of it has been.
Follow the link I posted. The causeway created from the remains of Ezk's Tyre were deposited on the northern part of the Causeway. There are several thousand yards of 'silt' between the southern most point of the pensula (where your archaeologist found what they found.) and the actual remains of Ezk's Tyre.
What they most likly found was the remains of the southern sea port In the naturally occouring harbor. The whole Island was walled and utilized in that day, but a sea port does not a city make. So yes they found stones from the time of the Ezk's tyre, but they were not of Ezk's Tyre. they were of the only structure recorded to have been there. The Southern most Sea Port.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Siege_tryre.gif
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RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 28, 2012 at 9:38 pm
You are still a shitty lawyer, drippy.
God should have paid a bigger retainer to get someone competent to try to get his sorry, holy, ass off the hook.
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RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 28, 2012 at 11:38 pm
(October 28, 2012 at 9:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You are still a shitty lawyer, drippy.
God should have paid a bigger retainer to get someone competent to try to get his sorry, holy, ass off the hook.
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RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 29, 2012 at 12:17 am
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RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 29, 2012 at 9:00 am
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2012 at 9:03 am by Drich.)
Well, like it or not accept it or not. You all (those who have argued a failed, failed tyre prophecy) have a biblical defence supported by archaeological evidence from respected sources.
Are their any other biblical prophecies that any of you want to discuss? Because the Tyre discussion has basically boiled down to a yeah-huh/Nut-uh arguement, I consider the matter closed. Again this does not mean you have to accept what i have said. There is just no where else for me to go with this conversation.
I will say I learned alot from this discussion. Before this thread I had never heard of this city. So thank you to those who fought to keep this conversation going. (forcing me to learm more about this place than I ever would have on my own.)
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RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 29, 2012 at 10:52 am
Of course the matter is closed. Tyre is still there....so is Sidon which your boy Ezekiel also cursed. He must have been as big a fucking loser as you.
Of course, he probably didn't exist.
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RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 29, 2012 at 1:16 pm
(October 29, 2012 at 10:52 am)Minimalist Wrote: Of course the matter is closed. Tyre is still there....so is Sidon which your boy Ezekiel also cursed. He must have been as big a fucking loser as you.
Of course, he probably didn't exist.
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RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 29, 2012 at 1:36 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2012 at 1:39 pm by Ryantology.)
What is important is not what happened to Tyre or how permanent it is. What is important is that no evidence exists that Yahweh had anything to do with it.
Biblical assertions are evidence of nothing except that some barely literate half-wit thought God made it happen because he doesn't know how cities get destroyed.
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RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 29, 2012 at 2:54 pm
(October 29, 2012 at 1:16 pm)Drich Wrote: (October 29, 2012 at 10:52 am)Minimalist Wrote: Of course the matter is closed. Tyre is still there....so is Sidon which your boy Ezekiel also cursed. He must have been as big a fucking loser as you.
Of course, he probably didn't exist.
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RE: Failed Biblical Prophecies
October 29, 2012 at 3:32 pm
The fact of the matter is that god said Nebuchadnezzar would annhialate the city, and he did not. Alexander the great did, but it said Nebuchadnezzar eould do it. Why would god need to manipulate mortal armies when he could do it himself? If locating the city and excavating its harbor does not count as finding the city because the harbor is technically not the city former then I guess we're done here.
Drich Wrote:Are their any other biblical prophecies that any of you want to discuss? Because the Tyre discussion has basically boiled down to a yeah-huh/Nut-uh arguement, I consider the matter closed. Again this does not mean you have to accept what i have said. There is just no where else for me to go with this conversation.
Same. Not only have I learned about the city, but I agree that if we cannot agree on the definition of 'found', then we might as well move on. As for another prophecy, how about the one saying that Jerusalem would never again be harmed...about a decade before its population was massacred and its two main temples destroyed by attackers.
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