Last presidential deabte, was there a winner?

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I actualy watched this one, I loved the part in which Obama explained to Romney why there are less horses and bayonnets in the US forces.
When an addult makes an argument like a child, that addult should be treated like a child.

[Polaris]

Obama probably won and if he wins again, we have a fourth consecutive term of Bush policy. America seems to be even worse than Russia with its politics.

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Obama probably won and if he wins again, we have a fourth consecutive term of Bush policy. American seems to be even worse than Russia with its politics.

Can you explain that to me?
Bush policy? America being worse than Russia with it`s policies?

[Tiberius]

Obama probably won and if he wins again, we have a fourth consecutive term of Bush policy. America seems to be even worse than Russia with its politics.

Either way you'd have a fourth consecutive term of Bush policies.

Also, I agree with Tino; media bias exists in pretty much any media company. That isn't to say that all media companies lean one particular way all the time (even Fox News had/has liberal and libertarian commentators), but speaking generally, there is an obvious lean most of the time.

From an outsider's perspective (i.e. I only catch glimpses of American TV), Fox News is clearly more right-wing, whilst MSNBC is more left-wing (Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow spring to mind). The others are somewhat centrist, but often lean left. I'd say MSNBC is as far left a "mainstream" broadcaster gets.

Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with bias; as long as you are open about it. Fox News does this to some degree, but very tacitly (Google "fox news admits bias" and you get plenty of links). Likewise, Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow as far as I am aware do not hide the fact that their shows are biased towards the left. Most people have an agenda, and if you have a particular audience you want to market yourself towards, go for it. At the end of the day, the consumer chooses the product.

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Either way you'd have a fourth consecutive term of Bush policies.

Also, I agree with Tino; media bias exists in pretty much any media company. That isn't to say that all media companies lean one particular way all the time (even Fox News had/has liberal and libertarian commentators), but speaking generally, there is an obvious lean most of the time.

From an outsider's perspective (i.e. I only catch glimpses of American TV), Fox News is clearly more right-wing, whilst MSNBC is more left-wing (Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow spring to mind). The others are somewhat centrist, but often lean left. I'd say MSNBC is as far left a "mainstream" broadcaster gets.

Not that there is anything necessarily wrong with bias; as long as you are open about it. Fox News does this to some degree, but very tacitly (Google "fox news admits bias" and you get plenty of links). Likewise, Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow as far as I am aware do not hide the fact that their shows are biased towards the left. Most people have an agenda, and if you have a particular audience you want to market yourself towards, go for it. At the end of the day, the consumer chooses the product.

WHY? Two NBC pundits who constantly talk about right wing talking points, are not left wing and their certainly not as extremist as the entire rupert murdoch empire. We have nothing but right wing media and a series of hyper extremist fascist news groups. What's makes maddow and olberman left wing? Is it because they tell the truth and don't spread wild conspiracies? If that's a "left wing bias" than why aren't you left wing?

[Polaris]

Obama probably won and if he wins again, we have a fourth consecutive term of Bush policy. American seems to be even worse than Russia with its politics.

Can you explain that to me?
Bush policy? America being worse than Russia with it`s policies?

War on Terror (Obama is just another war criminal), deportations of immigrants (worse than any President before him), extending Bush tax cuts in 2010 and wanting to do so if re-elected, propping up Wall Street with the same Bush bailouts, etc.

Russia likewise elects tyrants that are in nobody's interest except for maybe the criminally corrupt.

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War on Terror (Obama is just another war criminal), deportations of immigrants (worse than any President before him), extending Bush tax cuts in 2010 and wanting to do so if re-elected, propping up Wall Street with the same Bush bailouts, etc.

Russia likewise elects tyrants that are in nobody's interest except for maybe the criminally corrupt.

Obama did not extend the bush tax cuts, or anything else you just said, he's president, not KING. Quit avoiding criticisms of republicans with retarded statements like "obama was president during <blank>"............ and change your stupid Jill Stein signature nobody beleives your an enviromentalist, you're just claiming to support a 3rd party so you can shit on obama freely and avoid any and all criticims for being a right wing republican

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He actually has pushed for the extension of one Bush tax cut extensively this year (the Middle Class tax cut) and as President, has the right one actually veto these tax cuts. Had he done so in 2010, he could have ended them because there were not enough Republicans to challenge him at that point.

Think for a second....why would a Republican challenge Obama on the same crap they would be doing in his shoes? That's right....they don't.. They always avoid attacking him on the issues that count because they very well know they actually support the same bullshit. They call him a socialist when he passes GOP horseshit philosophy that completely fails.

[cratehorus]

He actually has pushed for the extension of one Bush tax cut extensively this year (the Middle Class tax cut) and as President, has the right one actually veto these tax cuts.

fucking lie

Had he done so in 2010, he could have ended them because there were not enough Republicans to challenge him at that point.

filibuster proof equals 60 votes in the senate......so again fucking lie

Think for a second....why would a Republican challenge Obama on the same crap they would be doing in his shoes?

because idiots like you, will beleive anything, especially when you wanna hate the black guy, but can't say it out loud, so you make shit like this up, so you can rant and rave about him, and simultaneously avoid persecution

That's right....they don't.. They always avoid attacking him on the issues that count because they very well know they actually support the same bullshit.

name one republican that's afraaaaiiiiid to attack Obama? You dumbshit that's how I know your a fake enviromentalist because nobody but zombie fucking foxtard would even suggest this crazy bullshit is true

They call him a socialist when he passes GOP horseshit philosophy that completely fails.

they'd call him socialist for not using toilet paper made from gold leaf, what the fuck are you talking about?

they called martin luther king a communist?

So fuck off you conservative retard.

lol nice try your the conservative sweetheart, I aint fallin for your bullshit, I'm a communist i smell assholes like you from miles away

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