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No...It Isn't What You Think
#51
RE: No...It Isn't What You Think
(November 1, 2012 at 10:02 pm)cratehorus Wrote: you ARE confusing state capitalism/socialism in one country/stalinism/marxist leninsm with communism. most modern communists do not consider marxist leninism to be communism. However I do not deny that it is possible a similair regime, could exist in the future that is even worse. You'll find the most highly critical oppenents of Korea, Cuba, and other leftist governments are leftists themselves, because instead of shouting moral platitiudes they attack them on a strictly scientific basis, because that is what communism is, it's "scientific socialism" not utopian socialism

I do not support the kurds, or the americans, or anyother nation, you said you beleive in nationalism, you said every "people" gets their own land, then you say the kurds are different "people" and do not deserve their own "land", you beleive in empire, you beleive in perpetual genocide and indentured servitude, based on the fantasies you have generated amongst your own people.

Tell me, are you so inbred that you simply refuse too accept internationalism? I'm asking you, if your parents are brother and sister?

Utopian socialism? Are you fucking kidding me? This is pre-Marx, yet you have the temerity to challenge someone you disagree with on the subject with the charge of being the product of an incestual relationship?

Do you actually have something substantive to debate, or will you as usual howl like a christian being asked for evidence for their god?
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#52
RE: No...It Isn't What You Think
(November 1, 2012 at 11:27 pm)cato123 Wrote: Utopian socialism? Are you fucking kidding me? This is pre-Marx, yet you have the temerity to challenge someone you disagree with on the subject with the charge of being the product of an incestual relationship?

Do you actually have something substantive to debate, or will you as usual howl like a christian being asked for evidence for their god?

what do you mean its "pre marx"?
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#53
RE: No...It Isn't What You Think
(November 2, 2012 at 2:28 am)cratehorus Wrote: what do you mean its "pre marx"?

Seriously?
Pre as in 'before'. Marx as in 'Karl', not Groucho.
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#54
RE: No...It Isn't What You Think
Not to derail the derailment, but I think the OP is very interesting.
History really does repeat itself, yet humans seem to rarely learn form their own past mistakes, let alone from the past mistakes of others. Somehow, people always seem to think that for THEM, it will be different. I've seen people say that so often about America, we are somehow special and exempt from all reality that came before us, or something.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
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RE: No...It Isn't What You Think
(November 2, 2012 at 12:54 pm)cato123 Wrote: Seriously?
Pre as in 'before'. Marx as in 'Karl', not Groucho.
because that is what communism is, it's "scientific socialism" not utopian socialism

you shouldn't judge people who are inbred they had no choice in the matter
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