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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
November 20, 2012 at 9:30 pm
I am not sure if you are a fashist, nihilist or simply a very sad individual in the need of help.
Maybe all.
Where did I state that humans are equal to dogshit when civilisation collapses?
Or is there somekind of "reasonable" concept which can "prove" that humans are of equal value as dogshit?
If it exists I would realy like to see and read it.
Your last sentence seems to lais weight on the "help" thing.
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
November 20, 2012 at 10:18 pm
(November 20, 2012 at 9:30 pm)The_Germans_are_coming Wrote: I am not sure if you are a fashist, nihilist or simply a very sad individual in the need of help.
Maybe all.
Where did I state that humans are equal to dogshit when civilisation collapses?
Or is there somekind of "reasonable" concept which can "prove" that humans are of equal value as dogshit?
If it exists I would realy like to see and read it.
Your last sentence seems to lais weight on the "help" thing. Try realist.
I don't subscribe to pseudo-theistic beliefs like "human life is special".
A scientific understanding of the world around us shows that we all boil down to atoms or molecules, just in different arrangements. We came about through accidental processes of evolution, and soon we will be annihilated.
There is nothing that makes us special other than our own delusions.
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
November 20, 2012 at 10:28 pm
You dont subscribe to pseudo-theistic this or thats....besides prophecy. Rgr.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
November 20, 2012 at 11:13 pm
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(November 20, 2012 at 10:18 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Try realist.
I don't subscribe to pseudo-theistic beliefs like "human life is special".
A scientific understanding of the world around us shows that we all boil down to atoms or molecules, just in different arrangements. We came about through accidental processes of evolution, and soon we will be annihilated.
There is nothing that makes us special other than our own delusions.
Amen.
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
November 21, 2012 at 1:01 am
(November 20, 2012 at 11:13 pm)cato123 Wrote: (November 20, 2012 at 10:18 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Try realist.
I don't subscribe to pseudo-theistic beliefs like "human life is special".
A scientific understanding of the world around us shows that we all boil down to atoms or molecules, just in different arrangements. We came about through accidental processes of evolution, and soon we will be annihilated.
There is nothing that makes us special other than our own delusions.
Amen.
Keep these fora clean.
Dispose of your religious gartrash at the nearest garbage receptacle.
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
November 21, 2012 at 1:38 am
(November 20, 2012 at 11:13 pm)cato123 Wrote: (November 20, 2012 at 10:18 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Try realist.
I don't subscribe to pseudo-theistic beliefs like "human life is special".
A scientific understanding of the world around us shows that we all boil down to atoms or molecules, just in different arrangements. We came about through accidental processes of evolution, and soon we will be annihilated.
There is nothing that makes us special other than our own delusions.
Amen.
The delusion that human life is special decrease the probability that YOU will be clubbed to a pulp for someone else's afternoon entertainment. Of course YOU in your infinite realism would not care for such delusions and would therefore gladly suffer undecreased probability of being turned into ground meat.
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
November 21, 2012 at 3:45 am
(November 20, 2012 at 10:18 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I don't subscribe to pseudo-theistic beliefs like "human life is special".
A scientific understanding of the world around us shows that we all boil down to atoms or molecules, just in different arrangements. We came about through accidental processes of evolution, and soon we will be annihilated.
There is nothing that makes us special other than our own delusions.
You are so obtuse. I'm an atheist and I find human life pretty special. Not for any reason but because I discover that I have even more empathy for fellow humans than I do for most other animals, and I really like other animals. There is no justificatory reason for it, it is simply a brute fact about what matters to me. Do you think we consciously decide what matters to us? If so you must really believe in some pretty radically free will.
There is no religious basis for this regard I have for human life and there is no reason to deny what matters to one viscerally for purely intellectual considerations. One needs no God to make sense of our very common very high regard for human life.
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
November 21, 2012 at 4:11 am
(November 21, 2012 at 1:38 am)Chuck Wrote: (November 20, 2012 at 11:13 pm)cato123 Wrote: Amen.
The delusion that human life is special decrease the probability that YOU will be clubbed to a pulp for someone else's afternoon entertainment. Of course YOU in your infinite realism would not care for such delusions and would therefore gladly suffer undecreased probability of being turned into ground meat.
This is an interesting post. You are willing to face the fact that the value of human life is an evolutionarily beneficial delusion?
(November 21, 2012 at 3:45 am)whateverist Wrote: (November 20, 2012 at 10:18 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: I don't subscribe to pseudo-theistic beliefs like "human life is special".
A scientific understanding of the world around us shows that we all boil down to atoms or molecules, just in different arrangements. We came about through accidental processes of evolution, and soon we will be annihilated.
There is nothing that makes us special other than our own delusions.
You are so obtuse. I'm an atheist and I find human life pretty special. Not for any reason but because I discover that I have even more empathy for fellow humans than I do for most other animals, and I really like other animals. There is no justificatory reason for it, it is simply a brute fact about what matters to me. Do you think we consciously decide what matters to us? If so you must really believe in some pretty radically free will.
There is no religious basis for this regard I have for human life and there is no reason to deny what matters to one viscerally for purely intellectual considerations. One needs no God to make sense of our very common very high regard for human life.
I bet a lot of people think you ARE special, amigo.
But if your comprehensive abilities didn't depart so sharply from the standard deviation, you would know that it is not what "you find". It's what "it is rational to find".
There are people out there who say they find square circles, and teapots orbiting around Jupiter as well. Don't you wish to be more rational than those?
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
November 21, 2012 at 7:42 am
One does NOT need any deity / god period!!
Those that DO are nothing more than unthinking slaves.
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RE: Social Darwinism: Right or Wrong
November 21, 2012 at 7:56 am
(November 21, 2012 at 4:11 am)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: (November 21, 2012 at 3:45 am)whateverist Wrote: You are so obtuse. I'm an atheist and I find human life pretty special. Not for any reason but because I discover that I have even more empathy for fellow humans than I do for most other animals, and I really like other animals. There is no justificatory reason for it, it is simply a brute fact about what matters to me. Do you think we consciously decide what matters to us? If so you must really believe in some pretty radically free will.
There is no religious basis for this regard I have for human life and there is no reason to deny what matters to one viscerally for purely intellectual considerations. One needs no God to make sense of our very common very high regard for human life.
I bet a lot of people think you ARE special, amigo.
But if your comprehensive abilities didn't depart so sharply from the standard deviation, you would know that it is not what "you find". It's what "it is rational to find".
There are people out there who say they find square circles, and teapots orbiting around Jupiter as well. Don't you wish to be more rational than those?
Is there anything rational about fears and desires? What motivates is what motivates. You can't figure that out from scratch. Whatever premises you may choose to begin with in attempting to reason your way to a set of values, there must at the foundational level be desires which are served. What is rational is always in the service of some valuation which itself is not rational. It isn't rational to think otherwise.
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