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Will Religion and Athiesm ever compromise?
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 (November 29, 2012 at 1:40 pm)Chas Wrote: The only answer is secularism. This isolates religious belief from governance. I wish every person on this forum could read this post. Necessary truth dose for everybody here.  
When I look at religion, I like to take advantage of the fact that I can look at them all from a neutral position. I can judge the good and bad points of them without a bias towards any of them. What's more, I don't even feel like I'm biased to say all of them are wrong simply because I have an open mind: if I look at a religious belief system and find reason to believe it's legit, I can go with it (heck, part of me really wants to find a religion I can legitimately believe in).
So I've seen some good things to various religious groups, but they do always seem to have a bit of an asterisk next to them. Their good isn't conditional on their belonging to a certain religion and often they get to be royal dicks with how they choose to do their good (which is exactly I ain't giving money to the Salvation Army). The theology itself, I find religious beliefs interesting to look at, even if I still think they're all hogwash. Still, not having a bias towards any of them makes it easier to examine and compare them on a more level playing field.
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"If you cling to something as the absolute truth and you are caught in it, when the truth comes in person to knock on your door you will refuse to let it in." ~ Siddhartha Gautama 
They already do....well the normal religious and atheist individuals. But I expect you are more referring to the nut jobs on both sides getting along. The answer is a resounding NO. The asshole religious folk and asshole atheists can't even successfully integrate into society or follow basic societal norms let alone deal with each other.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
They can't because by the nature of both positions they are staking their very life/lives/eternal existance on it and no one want to be wrong. So with feelings this powerfull well....
 (December 30, 2012 at 8:53 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: They can't because by the nature of both positions they are staking their very life/lives/eternal existance on it and no one want to be wrong. So with feelings this powerfull well.... You might be but I think most atheists don't even give it a passing thought! ![[Image: cinjin_banner_border.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=oggtheclever.com%2Fcinjin_banner_border.jpg) (December 30, 2012 at 8:56 pm)Darwinian Wrote:(December 30, 2012 at 8:53 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: They can't because by the nature of both positions they are staking their very life/lives/eternal existance on it and no one want to be wrong. So with feelings this powerfull well.... You might think that but this is the busiest forum i've ever been on and I've been kicked of a big muslim forum and lol the biggest catholic one ( and im catholic). And clearly from the strength of some replies the care a great deal even if they can't admit it. Course it's just my limited experience so not scientific as sample too small. 
 RE: Will Religion and Athiesm ever compromise?
December 30, 2012 at 9:31 pm
(This post was last modified: December 30, 2012 at 9:31 pm by Cyberman.)
If you're trying to say that the atheists here spend a lot of time talking about this stuff, you're right. However, consider if this were, say, a Star Trek forum. Would it really be a surprise if that were the primary topic of conversation?
If you're not saying that, then of course there's no need to read this post. Carry on.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(December 30, 2012 at 9:31 pm)Stimbo Wrote: If you're trying to say that the atheists here spend a lot of time talking about this stuff, you're right. However, consider if this were, say, a Star Trek forum. Would it really be a surprise if that were the primary topic of conversation? I think we both got each others point. 
 (December 30, 2012 at 8:53 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: They can't because by the nature of both positions they are staking their very life/lives/eternal existance on it and no one want to be wrong. So with feelings this powerfull well.... This really gets at how asymmetric the relationship between theist and atheist can be. Atheists have nothing at stake .. until religion reaches out to proclaim the country a Christian one and seek to insinuate its values and goals into the law. Then of course, we can get a little bitchy. I can refrain from trying to de-convert your babies but would really appreciate it if you and all theist-kind could embrace secularism in public affairs. I teach young people but do not broach religious topics or disclose my own lack of religious interest. I see no justification for exploiting my position to proselytize. I wish theists would be as considerate. |
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