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RE: Leftwing Newspaper Gone Too Far?
December 28, 2012 at 7:28 am
(December 27, 2012 at 9:12 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: (December 27, 2012 at 2:44 am)SkyMutt Wrote: Anthropology is still a very broad category. We are not talking of some sort of Hobbesian "state of nature" here, but rather of a Western civilization in the early 21st century. Your simplistic "might=right" equation is completely inadequate to describe its workings. I'm not trying to be expansive - the reduction is deliberate. It really can be simplified in just that way.
(December 27, 2012 at 2:44 am)SkyMutt Wrote: ...The majority in the United States does not have "the collective the right to do whatever it wants," and if you believe that it does, I suggest you try reading up on the laws of that country.
Yes they do.
I suggest you try reading up on the laws of that country prior to the war of independence. No parliament can pass a law that binds future parliaments.
The same mandate of the masses which ratifies a Constitution can UNratify or create a new/different Constitution.
And your quaint notions about "The Law" didnt prevent these folk from taking it into their own hands.
(December 27, 2012 at 2:44 am)SkyMutt Wrote: ...You've ignored my point about the inherent protections in the Constitution of the United States against a tyranny of the majority. The are not inherent. They are provisional. The protection of minorities has (and needs) the assent of the majority.
(December 27, 2012 at 2:44 am)SkyMutt Wrote: ...I would reinforce that by stating that well established legal precedent in the U. S. also thwarts a tyranny of the majority.
Legal precedent? You do know who pays the wages of the judiciary dont you? Tax-payers/voters.
(December 27, 2012 at 2:44 am)SkyMutt Wrote: ...I'd hate to think you're ignoring my point simply because it refutes your position. You have to make a refutation before I can ignore it.
I am not quite sure what all this stuff about the happenings prior to the Revolutionary War, but we do not have the absolute right to do whatever we want, otherwise why have a Constitution(that is a law document itself)?
It is specifically an anti trust law banning monopolies of power by setting up a system of checks and balances. If we got to always do whatever we wanted that would simply be anarchy.
Laws are always a social contract setting up parameters as to what government can do vs what you yourself can do. Freedom of speech does not mean you can say "Go kill this person". Nor does it mean we can sell porn to kids.
The "freedom" we have is merely the ability to write our own laws and the ability to dissent, and ask for a review of case when we feel the government has stepped on our rights. It does not give us the freedom to burn down our neighbors house, or run naked in the public streets.
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RE: Leftwing Newspaper Gone Too Far?
December 28, 2012 at 8:46 am
It was bound to happen....When a newspaper takes it upon itself to publish a map with the names and addresses of private citizens who legally own guns and have gun permits, what did you expect was going to happen next?.....
Quote:Blogger Retaliates Against Paper That Published Gun Owner Addresses by Creating Interactive Map of Its Employees
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/blogger-...employees/
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RE: Leftwing Newspaper Gone Too Far?
December 28, 2012 at 8:47 am
^ And I suppose that you think that is okay, right?
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RE: Leftwing Newspaper Gone Too Far?
December 28, 2012 at 8:58 am
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(December 28, 2012 at 8:47 am)Aractus Wrote: ^ And I suppose that you think that is okay, right? I didn't say...but what do you think,.... Is 'What's good for the Goose, good for the Gander'?....Should the staff of this newspaper have a good dose of its own medicine?....I'll start a poll and see what others think about it.
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RE: Leftwing Newspaper Gone Too Far?
December 28, 2012 at 4:31 pm
(December 28, 2012 at 8:46 am)A Theist Wrote: It was bound to happen....When a newspaper takes it upon itself to publish a map with the names and addresses of private citizens who legally own guns and have gun permits, what did you expect was going to happen next?.....
Quote:Blogger Retaliates Against Paper That Published Gun Owner Addresses by Creating Interactive Map of Its Employees
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/blogger-...employees/
Good for them. That blogger was just publishing public records. Hopefully those assholes at that newspaper will learn the difference between investigating and being dicks.
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RE: Leftwing Newspaper Gone Too Far?
December 30, 2012 at 9:16 pm
(This post was last modified: December 30, 2012 at 9:17 pm by Lion IRC.)
(December 28, 2012 at 3:19 am)SkyMutt Wrote: To repeat: the prevention of a tyranny of the majority is an integral principle of the Constitution, inherent in its construction. That principle is provisional only in the sense that the Constitution itself is provisional, as any law ever written (including the Ten Commandments) is provisional.
Assume you mean tyranny by the majority right?
...or tyranny of the minority
My point is that the Constitution was put in place by the MAJORITY and remains in place at their prerogative.
Speaking of tyranny by the majority, I see rEvolutionist is trying to start a Ratskep refugee camp. (2 users online LOL)
Disaffected ratzkeppers should come here.
Man they wrecked that place! 
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RE: Leftwing Newspaper Gone Too Far?
December 31, 2012 at 11:35 am
Apparently the guy who created the map owns a gun...and surprise surprise...doesn't appear on his own map:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2973269/posts
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RE: Leftwing Newspaper Gone Too Far?
December 31, 2012 at 11:42 am
(December 31, 2012 at 11:35 am)Tiberius Wrote: Apparently the guy who created the map owns a gun...and surprise surprise...doesn't appear on his own map:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2973269/posts I'm absolutely shocked!!!!....I would never have suspected such double standards!!!!
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RE: Leftwing Newspaper Gone Too Far?
December 31, 2012 at 1:00 pm
(December 26, 2012 at 8:45 am)A Theist Wrote: A local New York newspaper sparks outrage from its readers after publishing a map along with the names and addresses of thousands of residents who have handgun permits...Is this the left gone crazy?...isn't this irresponsible journalism and isn't this just inciting more incidences of violence....
"New York newspaper faces backlash after publishing map of gun permit holders"
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/...t-holders/
so what? I dont care everyone who owns a gun is a retard anyway
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RE: Leftwing Newspaper Gone Too Far?
December 31, 2012 at 9:34 pm
(December 31, 2012 at 11:42 am)A Theist Wrote: (December 31, 2012 at 11:35 am)Tiberius Wrote: Apparently the guy who created the map owns a gun...and surprise surprise...doesn't appear on his own map:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2973269/posts I'm absolutely shocked!!!!....I would never have suspected such double standards!!!!
Can you please make better use if the italics code if youre gonna go climbing the facetiousness slopes of Mount Sarcasm in search of the Abominable Mockery Snowman?
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