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RE: Atheism leaves too much room for error.
August 23, 2009 at 9:31 am
(August 23, 2009 at 9:24 am)The_Truth Wrote: The bottom line is, Einstein didn't know, and neither do you. That's like arguing "Newton didn't know about Quantum mechanics, so neither do you". Times change, knowledge grows. Our understanding of science advances. We do know what causes the constellations to move: GRAVITY!
Quote:Doesn't matter, the point is, the most brilliant scientist in the world didn't know, and neither do you. Can you tell me what mysterious force moves our constellation? Is it God or not?
No, it's gravity.
Quote:If this vision would have appeard 1,500 years ago, you wouldn't believe it unless they had evidence. Well, here's your evidence. A vision of CHRIST appears to the Lebanese, and you can clearly see his mouth is moving. What are the odds of the wind blowing through the trees causing "just" his mouth to move? Incredible.
Firstly, it isn't "just" his mouth. The shadows of the branches that form the figure's mouth also make up part of his head. His entire head is moving (as well as hair).
Secondly, as the two events show no viable connection, the odds of them occurring are separate and equal to the odds of the wind just moving the shadow's arm.
(August 23, 2009 at 9:24 am)The_Truth Wrote: what mysterious force moves our constellation? GRAVITY!!!
Quote:It proves Jesus Christ (the same figure in my avatar) appeared in front of people in 2007. What are the odds of the sunlight casting a shadow through the trees to create the perfect image of Christ?
How it is a perfect image of Christ? You could take any young man with long hair and argue it looks like him. I personally see a nice image of Charles Manson.
Quote:The odds are just too astronomical to measure. The Jewish Messiah appearing to the people of Lebanon before the Israeli and Lebanon war is related. What are the odds of the sunlight casting a shadow through the trees to create this image of Jesus Christ we have painted since the 5th century? Incredible.
No they aren't! It's just that you cannot measure the odds because you have no solid base to start from. The position of the branches and the formation of what looks to us like a man are separate events and you cannot form any "odds" of them occurring.
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RE: Atheism leaves too much room for error.
August 23, 2009 at 9:39 am
I thought it (the video) was George Harrison, circa 1979.
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RE: Atheism leaves too much room for error.
August 23, 2009 at 10:56 am
(August 23, 2009 at 9:24 am)The_Truth Wrote: (August 23, 2009 at 9:16 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: PAY ATTENTION MORON! The quote YOU quoted was NOT a quote! It was paraphrased and paraphrased to the point of NOT maintaining the sense of the original, because Einstein did not say "we have no clue" he said "[we] but only dimly understand those laws. Our limited minds cannot grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations." which is, as I said, a significantly different quote from the version you posted! The bottom line is, Einstein didn't know, and neither do you.
The bottom line is that you misquoted Einstein and you did so OUT OF CONTEXT because it is fairly clear that he is expressing wonder not giving up! Besides, genius though he was, the world has moved on since Einstein.
(August 23, 2009 at 9:24 am)The_Truth Wrote: (August 23, 2009 at 9:16 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: He doesn't have to because YOU GOT IT WRONG ... if you are going to quote someone then quote it CORRECTLY and IN CONTEXT!!!! Doesn't matter, the point is, the most brilliant scientist in the world didn't know, and neither do you. Can you tell me what mysterious force moves our constellation? Is it God or not?
Me? Gravity as Adrian says and your assertion that "GAWD DUN IT" is a unsupported and pointless waste of time!
(August 23, 2009 at 9:24 am)The_Truth Wrote: (August 23, 2009 at 9:16 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Which (surprise, surprise) DID NOT answer the question raised by The VOID (and by me on other occasions)! It was answered, but it's the answer that atheists don't want to see. They don't want to believe God is eternal.
And if you had a shred of validatable evidence to support that statement you might be taken seriously ... but the fact is YOU DON'T!
(August 23, 2009 at 9:24 am)The_Truth Wrote: (August 23, 2009 at 9:16 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Yeah, like a YOUTUBE video will answer all our *questions*, solve all our *doubts* ... only Grade A morons reckon they do IMO! Maybe you should try referencing a science periodical? If this vision would have appeard 1,500 years ago, you wouldn't believe it unless they had evidence. Well, here's your evidence. A vision of CHRIST appears to the Lebanese, and you can clearly see his mouth is moving. What are the odds of the wind blowing through the trees causing "just" his mouth to move? Incredible.
As Adrian says it's a shadow ... so fucking what?
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RE: Atheism leaves too much room for error.
August 28, 2009 at 8:35 am
(August 23, 2009 at 9:04 am)The_Truth Wrote: I can prove God exists outside of the bible. Take a look;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b-dKa6QiOY
That's just a shadow. The human mind is wired to find patterns that aren't there. Our minds are wired to picture a face on anything that might come close to a resemblance of a face.
This is not evidence. You see a face whilst I see shadows. I can see what you are looking at. It's still just shadows on a wall.
I think this is a perfect example of delusion. What next? Pink carrots appearing in clouds? 
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RE: Atheism leaves too much room for error.
August 28, 2009 at 8:50 am
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RE: Atheism leaves too much room for error.
August 28, 2009 at 9:40 am
I don't mean to be rude but, what the hell  People will do anything to try and prove Jesus and God eh..
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RE: Atheism leaves too much room for error.
August 28, 2009 at 11:51 am
Some will...some however just think it's not a matter of proof, but a matter of 'faith', and they treat the God issue completely differently to any other, they special plead that he's somehow 'special' so he doesn't even need evidence, nevermind absolute proof.
I personally find the freaks who will do anything to prove God and Jesus...to be much more entertaining though
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RE: Atheism leaves too much room for error.
August 28, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Entertaining certainly is one way of putting it haha
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RE: Atheism leaves too much room for error.
August 28, 2009 at 1:52 pm
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Some stupid things really do take the cut: A theist once said "The sun's not the only source of light, you know. THink about a cloudy day: the lights got to be coming from somewhere!"
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RE: Atheism leaves too much room for error.
August 29, 2009 at 3:52 pm
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Dear God
I am writing to you today to tell you about a mistake you made.
There is this guy who posts on Atheistforums.org under the name the_Truth and i think that you may have been supa busy the day he was born healin sick ppl and feedin poor kidz in afrika but only da ones who luv jezuz 4real but like forgot to put a frontal lobe in his brain lol.
Dont worry its not a bad mistake, it's funny like when you fart in church and evry1 goes EWWWW and u get the evilz from the minister lol anyway could you please fix his brain cause we've been tryin to teach him real basic stuff but he dusn't get it lol.
Lots of Love (but not ina gay way cuz that's sin lol)
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