Putting God to the Test

[Cyberman]

Well, I guess that's me told off then. There's nothing left now but to convert I suppose. From now on you can call me Sister Pudenda.

[Gambit]

I'm tired of saying it, but dammit, I'm going to say it again. Heal a damn amputee and then maybe, just maybe, be can talk.

[Cato]

I am sorry you think what God does is absurd. Well you are living on shaky ground, one day the flood of death will come, and will you be ready for it's journey, you can ignore what people tell you for perfect evidence, but you may never get what you demand. I am no fool, I know who I am, I know what I have experienced. I trust others who have experienced the same. What do you want me to become a drinking, porno loving, fool. Or should I remain a God fearing husband, who experiences the miraculous often. I choose to stay with what I have. You can go to hell if you want, ignoring all the facts for your precious double blind studies, but I choose to live in the truth, and respect God's law and rule.

2Pe 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

I can't wait to see the expression on your face when you arrive in hell and realize that I'm in charge.

[KichigaiNeko]

I'm tired of saying it, but dammit, I'm going to say it again. Heal a damn amputee and then maybe, just maybe, be can talk.

Surely you mean, "restore and amputees limb-good as new" Gambit and THEN we'll talk

[Penhorse340]

I am sorry you think what God does is absurd. Well you are living on shaky ground, one day the flood of death will come, and will you be ready for it's journey, you can ignore what people tell you for perfect evidence, but you may never get what you demand. I am no fool, I know who I am, I know what I have experienced. I trust others who have experienced the same. What do you want me to become a drinking, porno loving, fool. Or should I remain a God fearing husband, who experiences the miraculous often. I choose to stay with what I have. You can go to hell if you want, ignoring all the facts for your precious double blind studies, but I choose to live in the truth, and respect God's law and rule.

2Pe 2:5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

I can't wait to see the expression on your face when you arrive in hell and realize that I'm in charge.

Why do Christians always resort, when frustrated, to turn or burn?!

And just examine your statement here for a minute. I'm pretty sure God wouldn't approve of the spiritual equivilent of "you'd BETTER admit I'm right or I will straight f**k you UP!!"

Blarg!! Christianity would be so much easier if not for the Christians!

[Fidel_Castronaut]

All I'm asking for is evidence, the same evidence you would ask for should a stranger come up to you in the street and claim you were about to die from a deadly bacterial infection that was untreatable save for his own medical cure that only he has access to. That's it.

As far as I am concerned doctors documenting cases of divine healings, with before and after shots, is enough evidence for me. And there are enough test cases there to say that healing happens frequently for people, it is not a one off isolated incodent. Many cases of healing go unreported, as a case in point the person I prayed for.

You said you are sick with Diabeties, would you like me to pray for you, God may well heal you and you will have your evidence first hand.

Exactly, evidence for YOU, not evidence for ME/US.

I'm not sure if I feel good or not knowing that, in order to convince you of anything, all I have to do is say I saw it happen.

"I won a million dollars"
"I have made a cure of cancer, all cancers"
"You will die unless you give me $100 dollars"

Empirical evidence or nothing. I'm truly sorry that this is lost on you.

As for prayer, knock yourself out. Do you want to know what would really help me and countless other diabetics? Research. Money ploughed into stem-cell research and into organisations that look into auto-immune deficiencies (which is what T1 diabetes actually is).

That would be a million times more effective that prayer, but again, I feel as though you will ignore the points I have raised to you here, as in the majority of my other posts.

[Penhorse340]

Ok, here's fun. Statistically, I believe that alcoholics are more likely to stay on the wagon if they have a religious element to their recovery.

Now I think that's nothing more than psychology, would work just as well if they were directed toward Vishnu, or Thor. However it can't be denied that they were healed, in part, by religion.

[FutureAndAHope]

As for prayer, knock yourself out.

No worries, I will start praying that God cures your illness. I don't have the money to donate to the research you suggested, I am already tied up in giving to alleviate poverty in the third world. But I will also pray that a cure for your illness is found. I believe in both spiritual and natural forms of healing.

[KichigaiNeko]

Not really. They just feel as though they have a "get out of Jail Free" card.

---

As for prayer, knock yourself out.

No worries, I will start praying that God cures your illness. I don't have the money to donate to the research you suggested, I am already tied up in giving to alleviate poverty in the third world. But I will also pray that a cure for your illness is found. I believe in both spiritual and natural forms of healing.

How to "think" you are helping by doing nothing.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

FWIW, there is no spiritual cure for T1 diabetes.