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Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
December 31, 2012 at 10:22 pm
My question is a simple one.
How can you justify using "the" LXX and the Latin Vulgate as "inspired scripture"???? (PS in this context the LXX means Codex Vaticanus minus the NT).
Good luck in your quest for justification.
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RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
December 31, 2012 at 10:28 pm
And how about the whole bible while you're at it?
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RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
January 1, 2013 at 12:01 am
(December 31, 2012 at 10:22 pm)Aractus Wrote: My question is a simple one.
How can you justify using "the" LXX and the Latin Vulgate as "inspired scripture"???? (PS in this context the LXX means Codex Vaticanus minus the NT).
Good luck in your quest for justification.
Same way you justify using the bible I suppose.
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RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
January 1, 2013 at 3:44 am
Try and post on-topic guys.
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RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
January 1, 2013 at 3:47 am
What's your reasoning for what should be considered "scripture" and what shouldn't?
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RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
January 1, 2013 at 4:13 am
Like most protestants, I don't believe any translation, no matter what language, no matter how old, to be scripture. The Bible was written in Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic, not in Latin, etc.
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RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
January 1, 2013 at 4:16 am
(January 1, 2013 at 4:13 am)Aractus Wrote: Like most protestants, I don't believe any translation, no matter what language, no matter how old, to be scripture. The Bible was written in Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic, not in Latin, etc.
Right, but in terms of what document is in or not...?
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RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
January 1, 2013 at 4:30 am
The 22 scrolls are the entire OT canon (39 "books"), and were so at the time of Christ. As the NT "books" (scrolls) were written, they became associated as scripture by the early Xian church in the first century, and the early second century. These of course were determined by early church leaders, but as time went on "heathen" books began appearing. They were weeded out. So the full answer to your question "in terms of what documents is not in it" is that once canonized, they aren't removed. In terms of the question "what document is in it", that was determined by the early Church.
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RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
January 1, 2013 at 4:39 am
(January 1, 2013 at 4:30 am)Aractus Wrote: The 22 scrolls are the entire OT canon (39 "books"), and were so at the time of Christ.
Sure.
Quote:As the NT "books" (scrolls) were written, they became associated as scripture by the early Xian church in the first century, and the early second century. These of course were determined by early church leaders, but as time went on "heathen" books began appearing. They were weeded out. So the full answer to your question "in terms of what documents is not in it" is that once canonized, they aren't removed. In terms of the question "what document is in it", that was determined by the early Church.
So would it be safe to say that in your opinion, it was a fully human process, which evidently involved cherry picking those documents that focused on Jesus' "humanity" the most?
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RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
January 1, 2013 at 6:04 am
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(January 1, 2013 at 4:13 am)Aractus Wrote: Like most protestants, I don't believe any translation, no matter what language, no matter how old, to be scripture. The Bible was written in Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic, not in Latin, etc.
God is so lazy. After he finished the greek and hebrew copies, confronted with the other 6000+ languages he just said "fuck it."
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