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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 1:32 pm
There isn't. Unless it's swirling around in your head heretofore unknown to man.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 1:35 pm
(January 5, 2013 at 1:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: There isn't. Unless it's swirling around in your head heretofore unknown to man.
time will tell.
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 1:37 pm
Ironically, that's exactly what's already told this particular tale.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm
(January 5, 2013 at 1:30 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: (January 5, 2013 at 1:17 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: The Cosmological Argument fails on all levels.
It does not force valid questions because it is based on invalid logic.
Just to begin with, the CA contains the fallacy of composition and an equivocation fallacy.
i will take your word for it for now as I not planning to use it yet ; there may even be a more upto date version that avoids the pitfalls you mention but its not the thrust of my exploration at the moment. 
Then what is the "thrust" of your "exploration" because I don't like dancing. I don't like yellow brick roads or dungeons and dragons games or claims.
Remember, you are the one with a bible quote for a name.
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 6:50 pm
(January 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (January 5, 2013 at 1:30 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: i will take your word for it for now as I not planning to use it yet ; there may even be a more upto date version that avoids the pitfalls you mention but its not the thrust of my exploration at the moment.
Then what is the "thrust" of your "exploration" because I don't like dancing. I don't like yellow brick roads or dungeons and dragons games or claims.
Remember, you are the one with a bible quote for a name.
I've got a lot of work to clear the way and I can't rush because if i do its me that will get lost in the maze of red herring that will be flying around if I don't have it completely worked out and clear in my head before i start. But i'm already working on a foundation don't you worry. I,ve had my toes burned already when i rushed and i'm gonna avoid that this time lol
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 7:14 pm
(January 5, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: (January 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Then what is the "thrust" of your "exploration" because I don't like dancing. I don't like yellow brick roads or dungeons and dragons games or claims.
Remember, you are the one with a bible quote for a name.
I've got a lot of work to clear the way and I can't rush because if i do its me that will get lost in the maze of red herring that will be flying around if I don't have it completely worked out and clear in my head before i start. But i'm already working on a foundation don't you worry. I,ve had my toes burned already when i rushed and i'm gonna avoid that this time lol
Good luck with that. But let me speed it up for you. You are NOT looking for facts, you are looking for excuses to cling to that myth. If you had something empirical that could be universally demonstrated no matter who you showed it to, you could very easily prove it to the world.
But all you have is the same thing all god claimants past and present, polytheistic and monotheistic, and even new agers have and that is nothing but mere superstition. Tin foil hat claims are widespread, that part I will agree with, but none of them deserve anymore value than claiming the earth is flat.
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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.
January 5, 2013 at 9:41 pm
(January 5, 2013 at 6:50 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: I've got a lot of work to clear the way and I can't rush because if i do its me that will get lost in the maze of red herring that will be flying around if I don't have it completely worked out and clear in my head before i start. But i'm already working on a foundation don't you worry. I,ve had my toes burned already when i rushed and i'm gonna avoid that this time lol
Really? I wonder what should be so difficult about establishing a "fact" such as the existence of a god. One would imagine it would be a rather simple exercise, not much need for guile or contemplation, like demonstrating gravity to a child by dropping a rock.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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