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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 15, 2014 at 11:28 am
Bullshit. Your NRA pals cut the CDC off at the knees and I've never been able to find complete info on the havoc caused by gun nuts. As close as we can seem to get is the FBI UCR and even these are disclaimer-laden because their completeness is doubted even by the FBI.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/cdc-ban-gun...d=18909347
Quote: The Ban
The CDC conducted gun violence research in the 1980s and 1990s, but it abruptly ended in 1996 when the National Rifle Association lobbied Congress to cut the CDC's budget the exact amount it had allocated to gun violence research.
Here's one of your allies. Be happy together.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/pro-g...-gun-laws/
Quote:Pro-gun nuts mark Sandy Hook by blaming mass shooting on gun laws
Quote:A failed Washington congressional candidate led a rally Saturday blaming mass shootings on gun-control advocates and urging supporters to buy tanks and bazookas.
“If you want to own a bazooka, you can own a bazooka,” said libertarian activist Gavin Seim, who captured just 2 percent of the vote in a Republican primary.
Seim organized the “I Will Not Comply” rally against Initiative 594, which voters approved last month by a 19-point margin, to expand background checks for gun purchases, reported the Seattle Times.
“Who gets to decide who is mentally unstable?” Seim said, questioning whether the mentally ill should be prohibited from owning guns.
Who's mentally unstable? I'd start with that ammosexual there.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 15, 2014 at 11:31 am
(December 15, 2014 at 11:28 am)Minimalist Wrote: Bullshit. Your NRA pals cut the CDC off at the knees and I've never been able to find complete info on the havoc caused by gun nuts. As close as we can seem to get is the FBI UCR and even these are disclaimer-laden because their completeness is doubted even by the FBI.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/cdc-ban-gun...d=18909347
Quote: The Ban
The CDC conducted gun violence research in the 1980s and 1990s, but it abruptly ended in 1996 when the National Rifle Association lobbied Congress to cut the CDC's budget the exact amount it had allocated to gun violence research.
Here's one of your allies. Be happy together.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/pro-g...-gun-laws/
Quote:Pro-gun nuts mark Sandy Hook by blaming mass shooting on gun laws
Quote:A failed Washington congressional candidate led a rally Saturday blaming mass shootings on gun-control advocates and urging supporters to buy tanks and bazookas.
“If you want to own a bazooka, you can own a bazooka,” said libertarian activist Gavin Seim, who captured just 2 percent of the vote in a Republican primary.
Seim organized the “I Will Not Comply” rally against Initiative 594, which voters approved last month by a 19-point margin, to expand background checks for gun purchases, reported the Seattle Times.
“Who gets to decide who is mentally unstable?” Seim said, questioning whether the mentally ill should be prohibited from owning guns.
Who's mentally unstable? I'd start with that ammosexual there.
I have been reasonable and polite. I have not expressed opinions that you are attributing to me, so go fuck yourself.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 15, 2014 at 11:32 am
Hard to be reasonable and polite when waving a gun around.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 15, 2014 at 11:35 am
(December 15, 2014 at 11:32 am)Minimalist Wrote: Hard to be reasonable and polite when waving a gun around.
I'm not waving a gun around, so go fuck yourself.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 15, 2014 at 11:47 am
Figuratively, you are. Guns are not part of a "reasoned" solution. Guns are for imposing the will by force.
You really need to consider that.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 15, 2014 at 11:49 am
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(December 15, 2014 at 11:47 am)Minimalist Wrote: Figuratively, you are. Guns are not part of a "reasoned" solution. Guns are for imposing the will by force.
You really need to consider that.
Guns are also for when a reasoned solution is not possible.
You really need to consider that.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 15, 2014 at 11:54 am
I don't even trust you to make that decision. You are not "god." But guns give a god-like power.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 15, 2014 at 11:55 am
-and here I thought they were for shooting squirrels and such-like...... 
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 15, 2014 at 11:56 am
(December 15, 2014 at 11:54 am)Minimalist Wrote: I don't even trust you to make that decision. You are not "god." But guns give a god-like power.
I will defend myself against assault. Sorry to hear that you won't.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 15, 2014 at 12:42 pm
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2014 at 12:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I think it's nice to have that option - but I wonder how many would actually use it...and of those that do, how many were competent enough not to mis-use it. Not that I wouldn't withhold all judgement in the event of....just in general, the notion of it unconnected to any actual event or specific person... bothers me.
So many ways it can go wrong. Only one way it can go "right" - and that still leaves somebody/something shot.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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