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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 15, 2014 at 12:49 pm
(December 15, 2014 at 12:42 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I think it's nice to have that option - but I wonder how many would actually use it...and of those that do, how many were competent enough not to mis-use it. Not that I wouldn't withhold all judgement in the event of....just in general, the notion of it unconnected to any actual event or specific person... bothers me.
So many ways it can go wrong. Only one way it can go "right" - and that still leaves somebody/something shot.
If the choice is between me getting shot and an aggressor getting shot, I don't see the problem.
Of course it can all go wrong, but having no defense is not rational.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 17, 2014 at 2:35 pm
Then you must constantly walk around armed to the teeth with the safety off and a round in the chamber watching everyone around you for the slightest potentially hostile act. That's no way to live. Why are you so frightened?
Meanwhile, in more news from Gun Nut Land.
http://aattp.org/no-charges-man-who-sold...goes-free/
Quote:No Charges: Man Who Sold Felon Gun Via Facebook Who Used it to Kill Four People Goes Free
Quote:The unnamed seller was a Mononaglia County man, who’d advertised it for sale on Facebook. The ATF found him after tracing the gun back. But, since there’s no requirement for background checks in private sales, the seller will not be charged with enabling the murder of four people.
Who needs background checks when you have Facebook?
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 17, 2014 at 6:17 pm
Hey, what the fuck is one more dead kid when 'freedom' is at stake?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/3-yea...reach-gun/
Quote:A 3-year-old South Carolina boy accidentally shot and killed himself after climbing a stack of Christmas presents to reach his late father’s handgun.
Scratch another L-ARGO from the ranks, Chas.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 17, 2014 at 7:48 pm
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(December 17, 2014 at 2:35 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Then you must constantly walk around armed to the teeth with the safety off and a round in the chamber watching everyone around you for the slightest potentially hostile act. That's no way to live.
I don't. This is just more of your frothing at the mouth.
Quote:Why are you so frightened?
I'm not frightened, I am prepared for possible problems.
(December 17, 2014 at 6:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Hey, what the fuck is one more dead kid when 'freedom' is at stake?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/3-yea...reach-gun/
Quote:A 3-year-old South Carolina boy accidentally shot and killed himself after climbing a stack of Christmas presents to reach his late father’s handgun.
Scratch another L-ARGO from the ranks, Chas.
Nope, that gun owner was irresponsible. Take a Valium, Min.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 18, 2014 at 12:36 pm
But we only find about it when the body hits the floor, Chas. That's my point. Everyone of you is an accident waiting to happen because humans are inherently careless.
Let's take today's news. I'm sure this guy was fully "trained." Fat lot of good it did when you introduce booze and pussy into the mix.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/georg...-drinking/
Quote:Georgia deputy’s girlfriend shot to death in bed during make-up sex after night of fighting and drinking
Quote:“Nikki asked Dwight for his pistol,” the police report said. “Dwight was reluctant to do so, but gave Nikki his unloaded pistol. Nikki repeatedly asked Dwight, ‘Don’t you trust me?’ She then asked him to load the pistol. Dwight took the pistol from Nikki, loaded it with a magazine and chambered a round. He then removed the magazine and gave it back to Nikki.”
“She then placed the muzzle of the gun under her right jaw and pulled the trigger.”
Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman told WSB that alcohol had been involved before the shooting occurred.
No shit, Sheriff.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 18, 2014 at 12:45 pm
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Now that!...is some kinky fuckin sex.
Never hand a woman your sidearm, it can only end three ways, 2 of them are bad. Those are poor odds.
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 18, 2014 at 1:46 pm
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(December 18, 2014 at 12:36 pm)Minimalist Wrote: But we only find about it when the body hits the floor, Chas. That's my point. Everyone of you is an accident waiting to happen because humans are inherently careless.
Let's take today's news. I'm sure this guy was fully "trained." Fat lot of good it did when you introduce booze and pussy into the mix.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/georg...-drinking/
Quote:Georgia deputy’s girlfriend shot to death in bed during make-up sex after night of fighting and drinking
Quote:“Nikki asked Dwight for his pistol,” the police report said. “Dwight was reluctant to do so, but gave Nikki his unloaded pistol. Nikki repeatedly asked Dwight, ‘Don’t you trust me?’ She then asked him to load the pistol. Dwight took the pistol from Nikki, loaded it with a magazine and chambered a round. He then removed the magazine and gave it back to Nikki.”
“She then placed the muzzle of the gun under her right jaw and pulled the trigger.”
Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman told WSB that alcohol had been involved before the shooting occurred.
No shit, Sheriff.
Yet another idiot, not responsible behavior at all.
If you are implying that every gun owner will eventually act like an idiot, you are being idiotic.
If not, then what is your point?
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 18, 2014 at 11:48 pm
My point, which you refuse to face, is that we only hear about the incidents in which there is injury or property damage to some 3'd party's property. No one...not even a gun nut...is going to be stupid enough to say to a reporter "I was practicing my quick draw in front of a mirror and shot my mirror." So the extent of the problem of idiots with guns is doubtlessly understated. And yes, my point is that even the most careful or "responsible" person can make a mistake. If you make a mistake with a knife, you may cut your finger. If you make a mistake with a gun, you can kill someone 500 yards away.
Now here is a tale which some people might consider "bad luck."
I consider it "Good Dog."
http://www.newser.com/story/200194/dog-a...owner.html
Quote:Dog Accidentally Shoots Owner
Police say it stepped on rifle when moving around in vehicle
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 19, 2014 at 12:27 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/flori...y-threats/
Quote:Florida’s machine gun theme park gives kids a chance to shoot real bullets at fantasy threats
Quote:A new tourist attraction in Florida will allow children as young as 13 to fire live ammunition at fake zombies and Wild West gunslingers.
Quote:“It’s romanticizing our freedom and our history,” Nierenberg said. “I mean, it’s part of American life. That’s how we gained our freedom.”
Uh, no. We did not gain our freedom by shooting machine guns at fake zombies!
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RE: All Hail the Second Amendment
December 19, 2014 at 5:13 pm
I put this here instead of the Fucking Cops thread because when the good guy with a gun turns out to be a bad guy with a gun who gets shot by another good guy with another gun it all gets too fucking confusing.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-sn...use-order/
Quote:Woman Serves Stalker Cop with a Restraining Order, So He Killed Her and Shot Her Daughter
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