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the wife beating verse
#71
RE: the wife beating verse
LOL< Dark..by definition she has already "lost it" she's disagreeing with her husabnd, so all he can do is hit her with something until she "regains it". He knows that this has occurred because she begins to agree with him. As you know -no one can take it forever-.........eventually they'll break. It's the repetitive nature of the striking, not the force, that achieves the effect. Haven't you ever interrogated an enemy combatant....fuck man., everybody knows this stuff.
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#72
RE: the wife beating verse
(January 9, 2013 at 5:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: LOL< Dark..by definition she has already "lost it" she's disagreeing with her husabnd, so all he can do is hit her with something until she "regains it". He knows that this has occurred because she begins to agree with him. As you know -no one can take it forever-.........eventually they'll break. It's the repetitive nature of the striking, not the force, that achieves the effect. Haven't you ever interrogated an enemy combatant....fuck man., everybody knows this stuff.

In all honesty, it is basically torture. He says people cannot be subjected to it, and then says it is merely annoying. At what point does this start literally driving her insane?

I wonder why I'm even here. I can't reason with him, and pointing out his logical errors is unnecessary because they are so obvious. I guess I don't know when to give up...
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#73
RE: the wife beating verse
Deleted post after re-investigating.
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#74
RE: the wife beating verse
." Then if they obey you, do not seek ways to harm them."

Then if they obey YOU not allah YOU


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#75
RE: the wife beating verse
(January 9, 2013 at 5:31 pm)paulpablo Wrote: ." Then if they obey you, do not seek ways to harm them."

Then if they obey YOU not allah YOU

Good point brother. I retract my previous statements. It does refer to the husband then.
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#76
RE: the wife beating verse
" As for women of whom you fear rebellion,"

It mentions nothing about rebelion against islam, it just says a man who fears rebelion, this is the word of the quran. Youre just adding parts onto it which you think are right.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#77
RE: the wife beating verse
(January 9, 2013 at 5:32 pm)paulpablo Wrote: " As for women of whom you fear rebellion,"

It mentions nothing about rebelion against islam, it just says a man who fears rebelion, this is the word of the quran. Youre just adding parts onto it which you think are right.

I accept that. And have retracted my previous post and deleted it.
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#78
RE: the wife beating verse
By the way i dont think you should really consider me to be a brother my actual goal here is to make you an apostate, the ONLY goal of of this convo is to convert muslims to be being non muslims via seeking the truth. Theres so many fundamental things wrong with religion in general that losing a debate about this one topic means nothing to me, but i think the more you see the logical side to my arguments in debates like these the more you see the problems that lie within religions yourself.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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#79
RE: the wife beating verse
(January 9, 2013 at 5:38 pm)paulpablo Wrote: By the way i dont think you should really consider me to be a brother my actual goal here is to make you an apostate, the ONLY goal of of this convo is to convert muslims to be being non muslims via seeking the truth. Theres so many fundamental things wrong with religion in general that losing a debate about this one topic means nothing to me, but i think the more you see the logical side to my arguments in debates like these the more you see the problems that lie within religions yourself.

I consider everyone a brother or sister. Either in faith or in humanity. And I look forward to understanding your viewpoints :-)

(January 9, 2013 at 5:38 pm)paulpablo Wrote: By the way i dont think you should really consider me to be a brother my actual goal here is to make you an apostate, the ONLY goal of of this convo is to convert muslims to be being non muslims via seeking the truth. Theres so many fundamental things wrong with religion in general that losing a debate about this one topic means nothing to me, but i think the more you see the logical side to my arguments in debates like these the more you see the problems that lie within religions yourself.

Hopefully you can post some more questions like these. As always i like to challenge my faith and ideologies and are always open to ideas.
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#80
RE: the wife beating verse
(January 9, 2013 at 4:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Do islam a favor and let somebody else argue for it...lol.

Response: Then I would only be doing you a favor since your weak rebuttals only encourage people to run from you and embrace islam. Thanks for the assistance.
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