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Burden of Proof
RE: Burden of Proof
(January 10, 2013 at 11:57 pm)kingofs Wrote: Is energy a physical thing? If yes as E=mc2 suggests Then is there a physical thing that is infinite at least by the measurement of time if not by quantity?
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If this is so, and it is possible for a finite amount of energy to be intelligent and self-aware, is it possible for infinite energy to be infinitely intelligent and self-aware?
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If yes is it not possible for an infinite energy to manipulate energy for its purposes?
If you have an infinite intelligence that can neither be created nor destroyed and is able to manipulate energy as it saw fit what would you call this infinite thing?
Infinite energy?
Where did you get all that energy?

Ah, sorry, didn't see it... infinite time... everlasting energy.

But then you jump and appear to claim this "infinite energy" is infinite in quantity.... oops, right back at square one. Where is it?

Are you suggesting that the whole Universe may, at some point in the infinite time, acquire self-awareness?

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Oh my.... Undecided
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RE: Burden of Proof
(January 10, 2013 at 11:57 pm)kingofs Wrote: Some Questions for Atheists
Is energy unable to be created or destroyed? if yes then does that do away with Bertrand Russell’s argument on Causation?
Is the human only a physical being by all scientific tests so far? If Yes then is it most likely that the human mind then is only a physical construct? If yes is it a finite thing?
Is energy a physical thing? If yes as E=mc2 suggests Then is there a physical thing that is infinite at least by the measurement of time if not by quantity?
Is our being made out of energy? If yes then is it only a finite amount of energy based on quantity?
There are current theories that our universe is only a single universe in a bubble within an infinite energy soup. If this is so, and it is possible for a finite amount of energy to be intelligent and self-aware, is it possible for infinite energy to be infinitely intelligent and self-aware?
Do we as finite energy creatures manipulate energy around us for our own purposes? If yes is it not possible for an infinite energy to manipulate energy for its purposes?
If you have an infinite intelligence that can neither be created nor destroyed and is able to manipulate energy as it saw fit what would you call this infinite thing?

Ah the old god of the gaps argument.
It re-appears regularly.
Like an unwanted relative.



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RE: Burden of Proof
(January 10, 2013 at 11:57 pm)kingofs Wrote: Some Questions for Atheists
Is energy unable to be created or destroyed? if yes then does that do away with Bertrand Russell’s argument on Causation?
Is the human only a physical being by all scientific tests so far? If Yes then is it most likely that the human mind then is only a physical construct? If yes is it a finite thing?
Is energy a physical thing? If yes as E=mc2 suggests Then is there a physical thing that is infinite at least by the measurement of time if not by quantity?
Is our being made out of energy? If yes then is it only a finite amount of energy based on quantity?
There are current theories that our universe is only a single universe in a bubble within an infinite energy soup. If this is so, and it is possible for a finite amount of energy to be intelligent and self-aware, is it possible for infinite energy to be infinitely intelligent and self-aware?
Do we as finite energy creatures manipulate energy around us for our own purposes? If yes is it not possible for an infinite energy to manipulate energy for its purposes?
If you have an infinite intelligence that can neither be created nor destroyed and is able to manipulate energy as it saw fit what would you call this infinite thing?

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RE: Burden of Proof
(January 12, 2013 at 9:21 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Ah the old god of the gaps argument.
It re-appears regularly.
Like an unwanted relative.

More like a length of dirty spine that refuses to flush away.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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