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"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
How do you find meaning as an atheist?
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You ALMOST FORGOT!
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
I've always found it odd that people ask this question at all. Why can't the fact that I can derive happiness from things in my life be enough of a meaning for my life? Why do I need to justify it beyond the fact that I enjoy being alive?
I love to write, I love to cook, I love books and argument and science and robots, I love my family and I love my fiancee... what else do I need, honestly? Not all purposes in life need to be incredibly significant or world altering. The human race has gone for hundred of years full of regular people with small, but no less significant for being so, joys in their lives. Hell, I don't even think theists believe that god is required for any form of meaningful purpose, it's just that their holy book demands it. I have no doubt they find plenty of purpose, just the same as we atheists. God's just... unnecessary.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (January 16, 2013 at 7:05 am)Esquilax Wrote: I've always found it odd that people ask this question at all. Why can't the fact that I can derive happiness from things in my life be enough of a meaning for my life? Why do I need to justify it beyond the fact that I enjoy being alive? I am always amused by the theists accusations that we have no meaning in our lives without god. Yet according to the Big Book of Silly Stories( AKA the bible) the reason god made us is to worship him constantly for the rest of eternity. This is finding meaning in your life? If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
Find a passion. Form relationships.
Meaning.
Certainly Gil. I find the concept of being a sniveling, sycophant of a slave rather demeaning of deity and human alike.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
RE: How do you find meaning as an atheist?
January 16, 2013 at 10:51 am
(This post was last modified: January 16, 2013 at 1:19 pm by Faith No More.)
(January 15, 2013 at 11:36 pm)AthianGuildmaster Wrote: As I mentioned in a separate thread, I'm quite surprised to find that so many of you see no potential meaning in life at all. But anyway I said I would explain how I find meaning, so here goes. This sounds suspiciously like a theistic argument. I'm not saying you're secretly trying to push that, but you're advocating the same "look to your feelings" thought process. I don't see why you feel the need to avoid too much reasoning to find meaning. Sure, emotions are ultimately what dictate the meaning we find, but not because we use them to determine what makes life meaningful. No, we discover what gives us meaning by understanding what gives us emotional pleasure, and that understanding comes through reason.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Meaning
Here I am in the desert, thirsty and looking for water, sure I could give up and sit in a mirage and pretend water is spiritual and is all around me, or I could accept the mirage is an illusion and carry on looking. Sure I might never find an oasis, but if I do not look for real water I will definitely not find it. (January 14, 2013 at 9:03 am)AthianGuildmaster Wrote: I'm curious, how do other atheists find meaning in their life? I'm not talking about "purpose", that's something entirely different. What I'm talking about is the sense of a definite direction or duty to a person or thing. How do you find that in your life? What gives you that sense of meaning? I always find this question to be a little loaded. It always seems that the person asking is doing more than just asking the question. They're always kind of implying that I need meaning and that I should have meaning in my life. Usually, like Jonb eluded at, the answer that I come up with is often not good enough, or somehow I cannot be as fulfilled in life as they are because they have it "figured out." In fact I can nearly guarantee that if my answer isn't the EXACT same as the person asking the question, it will be discounted as being inadequate. As if the meaning in my life isn't satisfactory to the hocus pocus gods of meaning and purpose that float around us in an energy field of fuzzy happiness. If you really want to know about meaning in life, go see a christard. Those insecure buffoons "KNOW" what gives meaning in life and they aren't afraid to tell you how wrong you are. (January 14, 2013 at 9:03 am)AthianGuildmaster Wrote: I'm curious, how do other atheists find meaning in their life? I'm not talking about "purpose", that's something entirely different. What I'm talking about is the sense of a definite direction or duty to a person or thing. How do you find that in your life? What gives you that sense of meaning? Please define "purpose". Please define "meaning". Because I don't know what the difference is between the two, all I know is that you claim that they're different things.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
its simple really
i live for a finite time and the rest moves on long after i pass and i wish to make this world a better place for my children and there children that is also the reason why i choose to start my education as a biology teacher its is my hope that i can inspire the next generation to join the ranks in the great minds of the future or just make them curious enough to pursue a career in academics my limited time on this planet my singular existence is what drives me if i believed my after life i would focus on how I live my life so that i pass on to eternity but i don`t want just for me to have a good life because i just inhabit this tiny blink of existence in this grand time scale of the cosmos and that cosmos , this planet with all its people moves on where i have long passed it would be egocentric to make just my blink better when i can start a ripple of inspiration in the ocean of time and space that could help the population in a whole and that is my meaning without god |
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