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"Religion of Peace" - My Ass!
#61
RE: "Religion of Peace" - My Ass!
(March 2, 2013 at 2:00 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:
(February 28, 2013 at 4:43 pm)C3P0 Wrote: Er, Atheism is'nt a religion.
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Atheism to religions is the same as Zero to numbers
Some people can call ZERO as the non-existence of numbers
others consider it as a number

No, atheism is to religion as 'off' is to a TV channel.

Please don't try to make rational thought at the same low level as religious belief.
It just makes you look stupid.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#62
RE: "Religion of Peace" - My Ass!
Actually, MuslimScholar has a point about being slaves. The purpose of religion is to have you submit completely to the will of god, as written in one of the many contradictory scripturres of incompatible religions. In Hevrew, a devout person is call an evet haShem, or a servent/slave of god.

The opposite of slavery is, of course, freedom. The more religious you are, the more that you embrace slavery. Orthodox and extremism in religion is an expression of that, and the activists who feel that if they have to be slaves, then anyone else in their club needs to be slaves too! And the more slavery, the better.

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And in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (the only ones I have contact with), the more extreme the group, the more violent and oppressive it becomes. All for the sake of Jesus, Allah, or HaShem. More people have died for the sake of these religions than...well, I cannot compare to wars because they have made many of the wars.
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#63
RE: "Religion of Peace" - My Ass!
(March 4, 2013 at 11:47 am)EGross Wrote: Actually, MuslimScholar has a point about being slaves. The purpose of religion is to have you submit completely to the will of god, as written in one of the many contradictory scripturres of incompatible religions. In Hevrew, a devout person is call an evet haShem, or a servent/slave of god.

The opposite of slavery is, of course, freedom. The more religious you are, the more that you embrace slavery. Orthodox and extremism in religion is an expression of that, and the activists who feel that if they have to be slaves, then anyone else in their club needs to be slaves too! And the more slavery, the better.

And in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam (the only ones I have contact with), the more extreme the group, the more violent and oppressive it becomes. All for the sake of Jesus, Allah, or HaShem. More people have died for the sake of these religions than...well, I cannot compare to wars because they have made many of the wars.
I totally agree with you!

Even that most people don't like those facts, but it is the truth
God wants us to be true slaves of him, i.e. to have all of our life for him, he created in us the ability to choose and decide between right and wrong, he even created in us desires to do forbidden things (Sex, violence, ownership, freedom, etc.)
I think there is a verse in the Bible that God created Adam like himself, The christian and Jews think it means in appearance, but it means having something similar to God in ownership and the desire to be free (arrogance), that is why it is difficult for us to be slaves.

Then he commanded us to restrict or reject those desires

This is difficult that is why the reward is enormous (Paradise)
Without this system there is no point of having a reward, you are rewarded because you are opposing your nature/instinct.

Think about any rewarding system (we created in life), business, sports, etc; the most rewarded people are the ones who did the most effort.

On the other hand there are punishments for the people who don't follow.

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About Wars
If you look to the universe around you, it is all about opposites
Predator Vs. prey in all life forms
Negative Vs. positive forces
Living Vs. dying
etc.

Human are not an exception
Yes, God wants war and conflicts between humans
There is a Hadith of Prophet Mohamed; he said: "If you are not committing sins, God will replace you with people who commit sins, then revert to God so God can forgive them"

All life is a test for human beings, some succeed while others fail
The ultimate test (and reward) will be for people who die for God (Martyrs in wars)

(You must know about the 72 virgins and such staff SmileSmile)
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#64
RE: "Religion of Peace" - My Ass!
Hence the perfect argument that Osama Bin Laden was fairly mainstream, and that those who sacrificed themself in Allah's name and prayed to him muliple times a day, were true Muslims, because what was done could be validated by their servitude.
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders
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#65
RE: "Religion of Peace" - My Ass!
well islam does mean peace after all.But all religions mean war.
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#66
RE: "Religion of Peace" - My Ass!
(March 5, 2013 at 4:29 am)EGross Wrote: Hence the perfect argument that Osama Bin Laden was fairly mainstream, and that those who sacrificed themself in Allah's name and prayed to him muliple times a day, were true Muslims, because what was done could be validated by their servitude.
I don't know about Bin Laden
But Islam doesn't allow killing innocent civilians

(March 5, 2013 at 4:51 am)Phish Wrote: well islam does mean peace after all.But all religions mean war.
As I said, Islam is not Salam/Peace
Islam is the religion of sword not the religion of peace at all
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#67
RE: "Religion of Peace" - My Ass!
(March 10, 2013 at 8:17 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote:
(March 5, 2013 at 4:29 am)EGross Wrote: Hence the perfect argument that Osama Bin Laden was fairly mainstream, and that those who sacrificed themself in Allah's name and prayed to him muliple times a day, were true Muslims, because what was done could be validated by their servitude.
I don't know about Bin Laden
But Islam doesn't allow killing innocent civilians

So all those fuckwit suicide bombers who are blowing up innocents in places all around the world are wasting their time then?
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#68
RE: "Religion of Peace" - My Ass!
(March 10, 2013 at 8:33 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So all those fuckwit suicide bombers who are blowing up innocents in places all around the world are wasting their time then?
It depends?
for example if Muslims are in war and there is no way to fight them except by suicide bombing then it is ok (but I think this is almost impossible)

Suicide is strictly forbidden in Islam
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