LBGTQ people and drawing the line on second class citizenry

[Gooders1002]

As some of you know I have been posting a lot about LGBTQ equality lately and this talk I something I would like to share.
This talk is about sexually and human rights and where to draw the line on where to make somebody a second class citizen.




Background

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Photographer iO Tillett Wright grew up between genders and sexualities. She's shot 2,000 people who consider themselves somewhere on the LBGTQ spectrum and asked many: can they assign a percentage to how gay or straight they are? Most people consider themselves to exist in the grey areas of sexuality, which presents a real problem when it comes to discrimination. Because where do you draw the line? (Filmed at TEDxWomen.)

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For those Theists and Atheists and anywhere in-between who are homophobic I would love you view and after seeing the real faces of anybody who is not straight, Can you still look at are faces and deny us are rights.

And everybody else, your thoughts.

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Those who oppose LBGT rights are no better than these people;

[Violet]

Those who oppose LBGT rights are no better than these people;

Sure they are, until they stoop to lynching and beating people down and overuse of derogative language.

Which not everyone who opposes LGBT rights does, infact... a number of them are rather pacifistic and even rather proper in their stance against say, gay marriage, whilst harboring no ill-will toward gay people at all.

I'm not a fan of branding every person who disagrees with me a violently evil extremist terrorist. Please... that's an identical retardation to comparing someone to Hitler

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I don't consider anyone in particular to be a second class citizen, but ultimately: you're gay even if you're only 1% gay, and you're straight even if you're 99% not... we typically refer to such as marginally bisexual (as in: bisexual only in very rare situations), and don't tend to associate them as such (since in everyday life, there's only a 1% chance of these things happening to them), and so many people who say they are straight are only mostly so...

And at the end of the day, if one spends massively more time experiencing 'straightness' than 'gayness': they are probably going to think of themselves as straight, and people around them will do the same.

The average person doesn't live in spectrums, they live in absolutes and exceptions (Black and White... biracial babies, Gay and Straight... bisexual weirdo, Man and Woman... chick with a dick, Mac and PC... linux). Things that don't comply with the set of absolutes that people tend to take for granted have a strong tendency to be ignored, forgotten, discriminated against, disliked, misrepresented, and/or a source for humor Just how the world works, and it's going to take a lot more than TEDtalks to change absolutist thinking

It's taken feminism a while for women to not generally be considered wholly quiet, passive, submissive, and dependent... really, it takes time and effort that a lot of people don't care to spend

[fr0d0]

Well I think that's everything.

*puts the lights out and locks the doors*

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Ofcourse a comparison to the KKK is an exaggeration. But I see those who oppose lbgt rights the same as people who are racists. And I am fed up with those folks, pacifistic or not, and I am glad I live in a country where such anti-gay bullshit is marginalized to the sewers of society. Fuck 'em and their proper stance.

[John V]

Uhh.....what's a Q?

[fr0d0]

Uhh.....what's a Q?

Didn't you watch Star Trek?

[John V]

Uhh.....what's a Q?

Didn't you watch Star Trek?

Aw fudge I expected that reply but figured there'd be a pic.

Seriously though...

[Violet]

Ofcourse a comparison to the KKK is an exaggeration. But I see those who oppose lbgt rights the same as people who are racists. And I am fed up with those folks, pacifistic or not, and I am glad I live in a country where such anti-gay bullshit is marginalized to the sewers of society. Fuck 'em and their proper stance.

I'd actually be totally okay with everything but not allowing my girlfriend to see me while I'm hospitalized. And I think that's something that needs to be taken off of marriage and simply allowed, not something that should be used as part of why gays should be allowed marriage.

They, the people themselves, are not always racists... but their pastor's interpretation of their holy book often is quite so. I think that separating marriage from religion would do us all a lot of good Religious marriage will always be possible... but it's a union before their gods, and should not be treated as a union before the state.

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Seriously though...

Queer or Questioning. The former is typically as part of gender identity, the latter as sexual identity.

Don't look at me, I didn't stick the Q there

[John V]

What's the difference between queer and LGB?