Men & children killed & dismembered by an atheist.

[Something completely different]

Annik ,The Germans are coming, and all fellow serial killer atheists

I was trying to make a point here, I think any religious person would understand it by now.. don't take personal crimes & throw them on religions & faiths, even if the person took the decision based on his/her faith.

Jeffrey Dahmer was insane, all serial killers are. The human nature (despite religion) refuses that.
But I was trying to prove that this way in writing topic is just like what the german guy said :

"This entire way of trying to pin point down points which could possible criminalise a specific faith or non faith just reeks of dishonesty and childish finger pointing."

Then, why are some of you practicing that with religions ? isn't it "childish" ?
I don't kill homosexuals & people who have sex, then why do you irritate me with sick peoples' crimes, and throw it on my religion ?

and again, just like the german guy said :
"And there also religious people whom I admire and who`s work I admire, such as Joachim Gauk and Theo Van Gogh."

I also have respect to many atheist scientists & artist & even normal people, including members in this forum.
I'm trying to spread mutual respect between religious people & atheists, by raising the debates out of these empty riddles, which are nothing more than "cheap propagandas" carried away to prove a point in a childish way.

and just to be totally honest, this is a muslim serial killer :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Muhammad

There is a big difference here! Even if you are sincere and opend this thread with the intentions you now state you had.

The 19 people who flew planes into skyscrapers, killing thousands, did this because they thought that they were doing their gods work in the name of their god.


That serial killer, I just googled, did this because of psychological disorders due to a sexual repression.


Big difference.

Or are you really suggesting that I cannot critizise a religion anymore when blood is spillt in it`s name?

[Angrboda]

I'd appreciate the original post.

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Why would I lie about history or my holly book ?

That has to be the fucking funniest thing I've read today....

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Whoah. And here I thought today was going to be another boring and unproductive day. Excellent.

Course, this isn't the first time he's promised to shutup... Shaker, shaker, shaker your law, baybee!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH4Tk8G02xA

[naimless]

I really started to lose hope in "renewing" the relationship between different factions..

For some reason, some people insist on insulting, making fun of others & deny without thinking for a mere moment, that the opposing side might be telling the truth..

I denied evolution before coming here, while debating with atheists I knew that evolution might be true, and also stated that it might be true.

I remained silent & absorbed insults from almost everybody, also without a result.
I tried to put faith out of personal things, and still no result.

and the only result I wanted, was for the other side to say : well we might be different, but we don't need to hate each other..that's all I wanted.

eventually, you're always the superstitious muslim fuck, the raghead monkey, who drives planes into towers, you're always a pedophile, always a rapist, always insane, always sick.

Humans are...heartbreaking, that's all what I can say.
But this time, I'm really leaving this forum for good.

A member wrote to me :

That has to be the fucking funniest thing I've read today.
I rather suspect you don't intentionally tell falsehoods, you're just too stupid and ignorant to realize how many actual falsehoods drip from your mouth.

I just hope that my message has reached everyone, this attitude would kill us all eventually, this attitude is evil.
please don't hate, please..

And I'm sorry if I offended anybody.

Salam.

I always find it ironic when somebody labels someone else stupid and ignorant - it is often a stupid and ignorant thing to do.

Indeed, when I signed up here, I also made the mistake of approaching all atheists with the attitude that they were all capable of critical and compassionate thinking. It seems there are some that are happy to ridicule others' experiences and not question their own - or show the humility in explaining the process of how they learnt in relation to your situation.

A lot of keyboard warriors would be scared to approach you in reality. Try not to take the entirety of the Internet too seriously. Information Technology was designed to share educational resources, but often it becomes disinformation and tautology.

I've said things in bad moods in the past that I would not say now. Similarly, whatever you feel now, will change.

[Cyberman]

@AtlasS

When Dahmer apparently (I'm too lazy to bother checking) said "if a person doesn’t think that there is a God to be accountable to, then what’s the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges?" do you agree with him?

[Minimalist]

don't take personal crimes & throw them on religions & faiths,

So when the fucking pope sent thousands of xtian thugs to the Middle East and slaughtered thousands of muslims...and jews who looked like muslims but fuck it, they had it coming anyway.... you are willing to let that go?

I don't trust most claims of finding religion from organized killers.

Oh but Annik, religion is so easy to find...and the religious are so easy to fool.

[Cato]

With a bit of luck an atheist may even decide to join NAMBLA, oh wouldn't that look bad for them?

Or become the Australian Prime Minister.

[Ryantology]

Is there a fundamental difference between a serial killer and a guy who straps himself with explosives and blows up a nightclub or a bus?

How many people have killed another, specifically, in the name of atheism?

Nothing akbar.

[iameatingjam]

some atheists do good things
some atheists do bad things
some theists do good things
some theists do bad things

what does pointing out one atheist murderer prove? What about the countless wars, genocide, witchhunts, suicide bombers started by religious fanatics? I don't go around saying christians are murderers just because some happen to be.

[Darkstar]

and just to be totally honest, this is a muslim serial killer :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Muhammad

But, see, there doesn't appear to be any indication that he was a serial killer due to his being a Muslim.

The bottom line is basically that no one kills in the name of atheism, but plenty do in the name of religion. People are especially hard on Islam now because of the Islamic extremist terrorist groups.

But don't feel too bad, because:

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[Esquilax]

Yeah, the crucial difference here is that you can't get from:

"if a person doesn’t think that there is a God to be accountable to, then what’s the point of trying to modify your behavior to keep it within acceptable ranges?"

To serial killing without making a leap of logic from "out of acceptable ranges" to "serial killing." Because there are plenty of acts that cease to be immoral without a god, but are still legal. One makes a choice independent of disbelief to kill.

However, it's very, very hard to go from the exhortations in many religious texts and by religious leaders to do violence unto sinners and unbelievers to anything but violence.