Why did god made death?

[Ben Davis]

I most certainly wouldn't be very happy living forever. I mean, for the first say, thousand years: it's not so bad... but eventually, you'll lose interest. Life without death is life without food, life without feeling, life without living. It would be pointless.

Oh, I dunno, I'd be OK with living 'forever'. I think there's so much to do, so much possibility, so much potential for personal reinvention that I could keep myself purposfully occupied. To steal your imagery, it would be like life with an endless menu, feeling in endless contexts.

...at least until the fatal microwave container incident.

[Violet]

Oh, I dunno, I'd be OK with living 'forever'. I think there's so much to do, so much possibility, so much potential for personal reinvention that I could keep myself purposfully occupied. To steal your imagery, it would be like life with an endless menu, feeling in endless contexts.

And yet... already am I become weary of the boredom. Personal reinvention might be fun the first time you do it, but after a while you realize that you're playing the same character... only the faces change.

The menu may be 'endless' in possibilities, but aside from an occasional momentary brilliant culinary combination that you haven't tried before: the universe's bland ingredients will be served in ways that are bland, raw, that'll make you sick, overcooked, needlessly complicated, and generally unappreciated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8rnMc22AG8

[Ryantology]

And yet... already am I become weary of the boredom.

If I had unlimited time, I would be ages before I got bored. There are so many things I want to do, but can't, because of the restraints of time. There are more books in the world than I could ever read in a single lifetime, and books are produced far faster than I can read them.

The fact that I am pretty easily entertained makes it less of an issue for me, I suppose. I rarely get bored.

[Violet]

If I had unlimited time, I would be ages before I got bored. There are so many things I want to do, but can't, because of the restraints of time. There are more books in the world than I could ever read in a single lifetime, and books are produced far faster than I can read them.

The fact that I am pretty easily entertained makes it less of an issue for me, I suppose. I rarely get bored.

Well, I imagine you're a fantastic houseguest. I could sit you in front of a blank wall, and you would be entertained

My point: after <arbitrary number> books, it takes a really special/unique/well-written book to entertain.

You would be doing for sake of doing, and as your friends died out one by one: it'd cease to matter. Your connections to this world will fade out, and you will be alone. Nothing to hold onto for perspective... and one day: you'll start to forget. Your passions will dry up... until not one <book> in the universe will interest you any longer. Today you are entertainable... 500 years from now, you will be nearly impossible to entertain.

Don't get me wrong... I'd like more time. I just don't want that time forced upon me well past any point I'd enjoy.

[Ryantology]

Well, I imagine you're a fantastic houseguest. I could sit you in front of a blank wall, and you would be entertained

Give me some good weed and yes, that could entertain me.

My point: after <arbitrary number> books, it takes a really special/unique/well-written book to entertain.

I get that, and it is true.

You would be doing for sake of doing, and as your friends died out one by one: it'd cease to matter. Your connections to this world will fade out, and you will be alone. Nothing to hold onto for perspective... and one day: you'll start to forget. Your passions will dry up... until not one <book> in the universe will interest you any longer. Today you are entertainable... 500 years from now, you will be nearly impossible to entertain.

I like to hope that, as time goes on, there will be more and more new ways to entertain one's self as new technologies are invented. I don't think I could go forever without being bored, but I think I could last more than 500 years.

As far as my connections to this world, I don't have many close ones, and for the most part, people come and go. I've never had a problem with this, and I imagine I could go on not having a problem, though losing my immediate family would be a giant exception.

I may be totally wrong, but I would like the opportunity to find out.

Don't get me wrong... I'd like more time. I just don't want that time forced upon me well past any point I'd enjoy.
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[Ben Davis]

OK, the following may come across as more than a little pretentious but I swear it's sincere and for the sake of sharing viewpoints rather than judging yours.

And yet... already am I become weary of the boredom

That's a shame. I know I don't know you other than a little from your on-site persona but I had you down as a 'carpe diem' type.

Personal reinvention might be fun the first time you do it, but after a while you realize that you're playing the same character... only the faces change

It all boils down to how adaptable you are to change and I'm highly oriented; I seek out new ways to change, not for the sake of it but to make things better, refreshed, renewed. I thrive in environments that necessitate change. And the best thing is that these changes aren't replacements, they're additions, enhancements; every change I become a slightly greater me.

...the universe's bland ingredients will be served in ways that are bland...

I simply don't become jaded in that way. I often find joy in the simplest of things and I think that translates to potentially endless wonder. A few millenia may change that view but I'm acceptant of change so that would be no biggie for me either. Thinking about it certainly doesn't feel negative, just like a potential indicator of the need for further change.

...and as your friends died out one by one: it'd cease to matter. Your connections to this world will fade out, and you will be alone.

And what of new friends, new connections, new environments in which to seek out new relationships? For example, if we met in the real world & got on, there'd be a whole new set of dynamics for us both to explore. Even in those times when I'd want to be apart from people, other people's lives would go on giving me endless opportunities for curtain-twitching! I think I'd only feel truly alone if there were no other living things on the planet. If it came down to it, I'd probably even commune with plants.

Don't get me wrong... I'd like more time. I just don't want that time forced upon me well past any point I'd enjoy.

Indeed. For some that would be shorter (even one average human lifespan is too much for some people), for me it would probably be a loooong time, if I had my way. True immortality, real endlessness? I think you could probably keep that, though. Ultimately I don't think my brain could cope with trillions of years.

[Violet]

That's a shame. I know I don't know you other than a little from your on-site persona but I had you down as a 'carpe diem' type.

It's because of my boredom that I make the best of things, and have a grand time of it ^_^ I'm still trying to wrap my head around this whole 'I have a future' concept... my wants are small, and all of them can be achieved inside of 50 years. Specifically, they are interpersonal. Living long past when everyone I love dies would be fairly miserable, and I'd likely spend the time thereafter either zoning out into video games that will stand the test of time (in this scenario I am numb)... or I'd go utterly nuts with mania (my other 'coping' process).

It all boils down to how adaptable you are to change and I'm highly oriented; I seek out new ways to change, not for the sake of it but to make things better, refreshed, renewed. I thrive in environments that necessitate change. And the best thing is that these changes aren't replacements, they're additions, enhancements; every change I become a slightly greater me.

"JOIN THE GLORIOUS EVOLUTION!"

I simply don't become jaded in that way. I often find joy in the simplest of things and I think that translates to potentially endless wonder. A few millenia may change that view but I'm acceptant of change so that would be no biggie for me either. Thinking about it certainly doesn't feel negative, just like a potential indicator of the need for further change.

The very crux of my point is that after <arbitrary time>, you'll become bored. So you find 'the simple things' enjoyable... eventually you'll tire of it.

And then you'll be like me

And what of new friends, new connections, new environments in which to seek out new relationships? For example, if we met in the real world & got on, there'd be a whole new set of dynamics for us both to explore. Even in those times when I'd want to be apart from people, other people's lives would go on giving me endless opportunities for curtain-twitching! I think I'd only feel truly alone if there were no other living things on the planet. If it came down to it, I'd probably even commune with plants.

Every new friend/connection/(especially) relationship you have will always be made more somber by the knowledge that they will die, and you will have to go on without them. Just one very close relationship ending with the abruptness of the other's death is traumatic and painful for many years... imagine achieving that closeness with several people, and having to carry that on for ages.

The usual response to such is to stay as shallow as possible in all things, and to not emotionally invest yourself in people. And then you've become an island.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKY-smJ6aBQ

Indeed. For some that would be shorter (even one average human lifespan is too much for some people), for me it would probably be a loooong time, if I had my way. True immortality, real endlessness? I think you could probably keep that, though. Ultimately I don't think my brain could cope with trillions of years.

Mine could 'cope' with it... but I would be the most chaotic force of sheer randomness for good and ill and for the fucking hell of it. Nothing matters if you are an objective fact.

[fr0d0]

Y'know, after my teens I had the feeling that I was an eighty year old in my head. Much like my sister I felt this was it, and I was destined to rinse and spin from then on.
Now I'm 53 and am much like a kid in my head, when I get it right.
Bestist ever quote.. from Picasso (I'm sticking with that romantic notion anyway ): You learn as a child to paint like a photograph, and then spend the rest of your life trying to paint like a child

[Atothetheist]

Like if god loves us,and he wants us to be happy why did he create death then(and all other painful experiences for that matter) It's like life is shit anyway and what do you get at the end death is this like an bonus or something?

And why didn't he just put us in heaven in the first place why do we need to be on earth first then go to heaven?

Childless questions but i'm a child

Well, God didn't want humans to die, but because they ate from the tree of good and evil, they were forced to become mortal and to experience pain.

This really is a myth on how good and evil, and suffering came into being. It seems much more logical to assume that the reason behind genesis was ignorant people wanted answers, so they made them up.

[PyroManiac]

Lol, Kids in africa...God didn't invent death, SINCE HE ISN'T REAL.

However, I find the bible as a good mythological story.