The current changes in the middle east

[WinterHold]

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Where do you live and what's your religious background?

[WinterHold]

Where do you live and what's your religious background?

I live in egypt now, but previously in Saudi Arabia. I spent 19 years in saudi -was born there-, I'm supposed to be a Sunni, but I changed my views (I don't follow any faction ; I'm going on my own).

[Something completely different]

Saudi Arabia is the last place you want to be with your opinion.

[The Grand Nudger]

I hear there's a fortune to be made in contraband and arms at the moment, perhaps you should opt in?

I jest, I jest. I don't think you're limited to any of the options you presented in the extreme. You don't have to hate yourself or your heritage for what others who share that heritage have done or may be doing. You can hold alot of ground at once if you're willing to move the place you're holding it at. If your community reminds you very much of a sinking ship there is no battle to be fought over it. Those that wish to go to the bottom with it will, all you need to do is ensure that you aren't one of them. You always have to look out for yourself, but that doesn't mean that you only look out for yourself.

Heres the question, the problems you mentioned are pervasive, regional all the way down to the community level. What -can- you do?
(if Europe's history with religiously steeped politics is any indicator, it's going to run it's course regardless. Perhaps it'll run its course faster now that troops and information move much more swiftly.)

[Something completely different]

You live (as far as I know) in a country in which critics of the regime and activists are assaulted and sometimes even murdered.

This may sound like a cowards advice.

Please do nothing that could get you harmed or even killed.



Other than that: your life, your opinion, your responsibility, and most importent of all - your right and will to express yourself freely.

[The Grand Nudger]

You live (as far as I know) in a country in which critics of the regime and activists are assaulted and sometimes even murdered.

-which only provides opportunity for "martyrdom". Hellish win-win for nutjobs aint it?

[WinterHold]

I hear there's a fortune to be made in contraband and arms at the moment, perhaps you should opt in?

I jest, I jest. I don't think you're limited to any of the options you presented in the extreme. You don't have to hate yourself or your heritage for what others who share that heritage have done or may be doing. You can hold alot of ground at once if you're willing to move the place you're holding it at. If your community reminds you very much of a sinking ship there is no battle to be fought over it. Those that wish to go to the bottom with it will, all you need to do is ensure that you aren't one of them. You always have to look out for yourself, but that doesn't mean that you only look out for yourself.

Heres the question, the problems you mentioned are pervasive, regional all the way down to the community level. What -can- you do?
(if Europe's history with religiously steeped politics is any indicator, it's going to run it's course regardless. Perhaps it'll run its course faster now that troops and information move much more swiftly.)

Do you think it's better, I mean gun smuggling ?
I was thinking about working in an organized assassination agency under codename "agent 47"..the tattoo would be painful though :p

I think it's a sinking ship. The history I know about the middle east didn't mention anything similar. The "sunni/shia" war is just so new ; people didn't make it that personal back in the past. It's the first time we see "protests" going out against somebody just because of his religious views. It was rare in the past & only about politics , but now I feel it's personal.

But one thing I don't wanna experience ; is living in medieval Europe xD if -as you've said- the Arabs followed the same path which Europe went through, then we're looking at 500 or 600 years of darkness, let's say it moves a little bit faster, I would say it might stretch to 100 years..

And I can't really do anything ; many outcomes might include prison or even death.

Running sounds good if this was the case..

[The Grand Nudger]

If the springs dry up and the land won't bear fruit, then the only choice is to become part of the diaspora. Unless you feel that prison, or death, or what have you is an acceptable price to pay. I don't know if I'd call the posibility medieval europe, even the middle east has pockets which are beyond that a a possibility, just that there are analogues, and we might expect similar situations with more modern flavor.

(and I don't really apply "better" or "worse" to shit like running guns)

[Anomalocaris]

I think you should start by laying low. The secret to being successful in an project that has ended in failure so many times before surely lie not only in resolve, vision or courage, but in timing and above all, subtlety.