Any questions on Islam?

[Kayenneh]

Look for any statistics about rate of men to women
You will find that men outnumber women in most leading positions

I'm well aware of the statistics, but that doesn't prove your statement that "men are more suitable to lead than women". Where's your proof for that?

[KichigaiNeko]

And to think that all the above can be perpetrated on young girls (5-12yo) in the name of your stupid prophet is just beyond reason MS

[Mystical]

So what I'm hearing is, if I was your wife and I put up with you for twenty years (with the threat of divorce and secession of male protection in a male-driven culture) and all the while I helped you build an empire: there would be no separation of wealth whatsoever and I'd be off the streets for a year?

No!

As you were my wife I spent on you for 20 years (still your are going away)
You had work, all of your salary you kept for yourself, and I'll not get any penny for that
I spend for 20 years on all our 8 children, now you are going to get custody of all under 11 years, without paying me any penny, I'll still pay for their expenses till they are independent

I'll still pay for your expenses for a full year

Then your next of keen man will be obligated to care about you financially

Muslim men are slave for women hock:

So what you're saying here, is that even though I spent on YOU for 20 years too, and raised your 8 children, and worked under your business name (PROVE to me that women can own businesses there or that they're paid separately in their own bank account for their services), and you decide hey "I'd like a brand new wife with a less loosened vagina (apparently women have massive quantities of children there?)--then you just throw me out, penniless after a year's worth of pitiful support and go on to live well-off with the fruits of OUR labor? Oh and you leave me all 8 of your kids,

Seems legit.

[KichigaiNeko]

Oh and don't THINK for one minute that you are able to call the victimisation card you bastard!

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/madhy...67067.html

more intell https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid...66&bih=653


ALL fucking religion is just a power play and women and children are the pawns / collateral damage.

[Muslim Scholar]

So what you're saying here, is that even though I spent on YOU for 20 years too,

Women are not obligated to spend on their husbands, if she did it is like a gift from her.

worked under your business name

If women worked in her husband's business, she should take a salary and keep it

(PROVE to me that women can own businesses there or that they're paid separately in their own bank account for their services),

65:6. Lodge them (the divorced women) where you dwell, according to your means, and do not harm them so as to straiten them (that they be obliged to leave your house). And if they are pregnant, then spend on them till they lay down their burden. Then if they give suck to the children for you, give them their due payment, and let each of you accept the advice of the other in a just way. But if you make difficulties for one another, then some other woman may give suck for him (the father of the child).

7. Let the rich man spend according to his means; and the man whose resources are restricted, let him spend according to what Allâh has given him. Allâh puts no burden on any person beyond what He has given him. Allâh will grant after hardship, ease.

you leave me all 8 of your kids,

I'll spend on them, give you a salary for raising them as well
then after 9 for boys and 11 for girls then can live with me.

[Zen Badger]

MS, no reply to our portrayal of the reality of your perverted religion?

Didn't think so.

[Kayenneh]

then after 9 for boys and 11 for girls then can live with me.

Oh, so now age matters? Why can't the girls live with you at 9, if you see it fit to marry them off to another man at that age?

[Mystical]

Divorce rates among Muslims is five-times higher than among non-Muslims

Malaysia
New Straits Times story (Sept 30) that revealed the disproportionately high divorce rate among Muslims (15,000) compared with Chinese and Indians (3,000). A Muslim man's unilateral right to divorce his wife at will is one of the causes of the higher rate of divorce among Muslims.

The fact that Qatar's divorce rate is rising can be blamed on the women in the country, according to a survey carried out by newspaper The Peninsula.

Based on this study, more than half of divorces in Qatar are the result of women disobeying their husband: in at least 20% of divorces the women behaved badly and 36% were caused by insolent behaviour by women. Some 17% of divorces are caused by women refusing to do their household chores. In 9% of the cases the husband decides to divorce out of jealousy, but also in these cases women are to blame, because they made their husband jealous by leaving the house on their own. One in three wives in Qatar suffer physical or psychological violence from the side of their husband, but this is not one of the listed causes for divorce in the survey.

Saudi Arabia

Given the enormous rise in the divorce rate in the Kingdom — the second-highest in the world — the head of Jeddah’s marriage court, Sheikh Saleh Ahmad Habad, has called for urgent steps to address the issue.
The court registers 40 marriages and 20 divorces a day.
Sheikh Saleh stressed the high price children pay when their parents divorce, including behavioral disorders, depression, addiction and low school performance.
. . .
A study conducted by Dr. Ebtisam Halawani at King Abdul Aziz University revealed that the main reason most women left their spouses was ill-treatment and violence. Most divorces occur during the first three years of marriage, the study said.
Polygamy, according to Abdullah Al-Fawzan, a professor and sociologist at King Saud University in Riyadh, is responsible for up to 55 percent of divorces. He added that the loss of trust, sincerity, compassion and cooperation were also factors in the failure of marriages.
The involvement of husbands in illicit relationships is a factor according to 38 percent of divorcees. Since few couples can get to know each other before getting married, the incompatibility and misunderstanding that can arise as a result often lead to separation, Professor Fawzan added.

According to the Ministry of Planning, 70,000 marriages and 13, 000 divorces were recorded last year. In Riyadh, there were 3, 000 divorces out of 8,500 marriages that took place in 2002.
Makkah had the largest number of divorcees (396, 248), followed by Riyadh (327, 427), the Eastern Province (228, 093), and Asir (130, 812).
If the trend continues, there will be eight million single women in the Kingdom by the end of the decade, according to Dr. Ebtisam Halawani’s study.[6]
The number of divorces is increasing, with nearly 62 percent of marriages ending in divorce.
Most Saudi women who got their divorce in the year 2008 were aged between 30 and 34, Al-Eqtisadiah newspaper said, citing an official report released by the Department of General Statistics and Information.
The daily said 25,403 Saudi women between 30 and 34 years of age were divorced in 2008, followed by 21,430 women aged between 35 and 39.
The report put the total number of Saudi women who got divorce that year at 128,090, the newspaper said.
The report also revealed that the majority of 14,589 Saudi men who divorced their wives in 2008 were aged between 40 and 44. It said 63,616 Saudi men aged between 35 and 80 years remain single, and 31,678 of them were aged between 35 and 39 years.
More than 2,000 men in their 70s or 80s have never got married, according to the report.

Earlier studies indicated that by 2015, Saudi Arabia will have at least 5 million spinsters.

Yemen
Rated the worst of 135 countries for women by the World Economic Forum's Gender Gap Report 2011. With limited access to education, Yemeni women take only two per cent of skilled jobs. Around 14 per cent of girls are married before the age of 15, and some are forced to marry as young as eight, Human Rights Watch says.
Chad
Three times as many men are enrolled at university as women in the central African country, one of the poorest nations in the world. From 2005-11, Chad closed only 52 per cent of its gender pay gap – the lowest out of all countries surveyed.
Pakistan
Women have greater than average political empowerment in Pakistan (which came one place above the UK in the ratings), but health, education and economic participation are areas of inequality. The nation's labour force is made up of four times as many men as women.
Mali
Women are treated as second-class citizens in Mali, where more than half are married by the time they are 18 and 69 per cent of women aged 15 to 24 are illiterate, according to Unicef. Under the new Family Code law adopted this year, which had been heralded as a step forward, women's rights have been set back to the original 1962 Bill, which rules a woman must obey her husband.[11]

All of the predominantly Islamic nations referenced in these calculations are members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC). The OIC rejects the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), and has created its own version of a human rights document, “the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights” that stipulates that “All the rights and freedoms stipulated in this Declaration are subject to the Islamic Shari’a” and that “The Islamic Shari’a is the only source of reference for the explanation or clarification to any of the articles of this Declaration.” Human rights group Responsible for Equality And Liberty (R.E.A.L.) has protested U.S.-funded NGO’s working in “engagement” with the OIC without challenging this rejection of universal human rights. On October 26, 2009, the U.S. State Department’s 2009 Religious Freedom report was critical of the efforts of the OIC to undermine human freedoms.[9]

From what I can tell from these demographics: You guys are abusive, cheating, pedophile masogynistic polygamists and you prey on younger females while leaving the males that are their relative age: in the dust. You deny women equality in healthcare, legal rights, and education. You also get divorces by a matter of habit, and those divorces are increasing because your women are getting fed up with your shit.

Am I right?

(not asking you, Mister "Scholar")

[Consilius]

Yes. How can you possibly believe that silly, contradictory, misogynistic crap?

It is not silly, nor contradictory, nor misogynistic.

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If the quran is so important why did god not reveal the quran to the entire world?

He did.

Yes, he did; that's why you know about it now and have access to the text.

[Mystical]

*coughs ^^^^^^
Sockpuppet
*coughs

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then after 9 for boys and 11 for girls then can live with me.

Oh, so now age matters? Why can't the girls live with you at 9, if you see it fit to marry them off to another man at that age?

It's so they can propagate the gender exclusion, and bias. Plain and simple. It's called "programming".
But I'm sure I'm just stating the obvious here