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The Case for Theism
RE: The Case for Theism
(May 11, 2013 at 3:36 pm)Love Wrote:
(May 11, 2013 at 11:04 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: Did I miss where you made a solid argument for the existance of God, I saw that you wanted to clarify that such an argument would be presented in a ratioinal discussion such as this, but I did not see the argument.

I think you might be missing my point somewhat. I was writing with a very focused concentration on the analogical argument. Let's put it another way using two very similar examples. To state that there is a case for the existence of aliens is akin to stating that there is a case for theft. It makes no sense whatsoever. It is an attempt at an inductive argument by analogy, but results in a false analogy because the analogy is poorly suited.
That makes total sense. His analogy is poorly suited. Making reference to anything that correlates with reality is a stretch when attempting connect a theistic view to it. Since you gave an example of another failed version of the same analogy, I would like to offer one that provides a more accurate illustration of the absurdity of making cases for such hypotheses...

Attempting to make a case for Thesim, is like trying to make a case for the Tooth Fairy. Neither have any evidence or correlate to reality, and they are only confirmed through the believers ability to persist that they are true.

This is an accurate argument from analogy and it is applicable in every possible sense pertaining to the validity of a claim. The problem is...No matter how perfect these two claims match up, this argument doesn't do much but draw attention to how silly it would be to swallow such a claim. Nevertheless, both claims STILL stand on the grounds that neither CAN BE CONFIRMED OR FALSIFIED. So, any arguement directed at either, is only valuable if one is considering what seems MORE TRUE. So, Tooth fairy...More likely to be true or false? God...More likely to be true or false?

If this analogy is to be useful, one must weigh there own presuppositions about the Tooth Fairy. Whatever your conclusion is on the Tooth Fairy, you can accept or reject God on the same grounds, as they share the same logical possibility of being either more true, or more likely false. Cheers!
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RE: The Case for Theism
(May 12, 2013 at 9:10 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Attempting to make a case for Thesim, is like trying to make a case for the Tooth Fairy. Neither have any evidence or correlate to reality, and they are only confirmed through the believers ability to persist that they are true.

Indeed, that is certainly a much more appropriate argument from analogy because it is centred around existential claims.
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RE: The Case for Theism
It's nice to find common ground once in a while! Cheers!
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