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War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
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 (March 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm)mo66 Wrote: Some of you guys are just bitter because the "violence" promoted by the Qur'an is actually necessary and was used during WW2. But you can't bring yourself to admit it. You are just bitter because your prophet was, indeed, an illiterate sheepfucker but you just can't bring yourself to admit it.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." -Einstein
 (March 7, 2013 at 7:50 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Religion cannot justify what type of war to have and where it's legitimate or not, but, in the case of Islam, it confirms moral reasoning as far as warfare is concerned. "and if they incline to peace, you too incline to peace" Tell that the crusaders and the 13th SS Handza division. There are no moral understandings in war, these are abondend during war and resurge after a war as a consequence. Abu Graib is the best recent example of such. Moral values, althought they may be defended are always given mostly up during a war. One may try to make "rules of war" but it is fucking hard to keep this up By the way: How is it moral to keep POW`s as slaves as your quoran says? Isn`T that what the nazis did with the soviet POW`s? (March 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm)mo66 Wrote: Exactly. The only person refusing to admit it is "here come the German" which is ironic since it was his fascist regime that was destroyed. The Germans were despicable and they got what they deserved. Fuck You! Especialy because I am a German, I know when a war is justified!!! It is, when one fights something as cruel and dispicable as fashism and when one fights to defend liberties and democracy.  (March 7, 2013 at 8:03 pm)mo66 Wrote:(March 7, 2013 at 8:02 pm)paulpablo Wrote:Your views on warfare are exactly the same as the Qur'an's view on it as you admitted before Ok I'll bother to destroy your argument. Just because I'm bored. 1 My views on the entire quran aren't in complete agreement because i agree with attacking hitler in ww2. 2 ww2 Didn't use the laws within the quran on either side at any point, buildings were destroyed, men women and children were all attacked, on each side. 3 The quran talks about killing polytheists and disbelievers how does that fit into ww2. 4 If any group in history made it known that they were abiding by the laws of the quran all people fighting them would have to do is send an army of women, or just hide in buildings, since muslims are (supposedly) not allowed to attack women or damage buildings, so as an actual strategy in military terms it would be suicide. Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. (March 7, 2013 at 8:03 pm)mo66 Wrote: I'm happy we agreed with the Qur'an and decimated your country No it didnt it was the will to presisst of the British people! The ingeneers and scientists of the Brits, Russians and american! The fearless will for resistance from the French, the Danes, the Poles, the Serbs, the Bulgarians, the Russians and more! And it was throught the blood of those who stormed the beaches on D-Day!!! YOU!!!!! didnt spill a drop of blood on the beaches during D-Day, nore in Leningrad! Stalingrad! Pearl Harbor or anywhere else!!!!! Neighter did your religious representatives take a move to demolish fashism!! Scientologists here oftern claim (!!!Falsly through disgusting lying!!!) to be victims of national socialim!!! One of the most repulsive things there is!!! But your move, to claim credit for your religion on the graves of those who actualy fought to win WW2 is one of the most disgusting things I have ever ever ever ever ever ever ever read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wish I could stuff a rifle in your hand, go back through time and shove you infront of the muslim SS dividion who fought for Hitler!!! Then I would like to see your principles in action!!! Quote:The Germans were despicable and they got what they deserved. A whole nation of people slammed and criticized by one bitter muslim Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them. Impersonation is treason. 
The Germans are coming, I didn't think about slavery. This was a missed element. I believe slavery was and is wrong.
You have corrected me.  RE: War and the Qur'an: Hypocritical criticism
March 7, 2013 at 8:14 pm
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2013 at 8:29 pm by Jackalope.)
(March 7, 2013 at 7:26 pm)mo66 Wrote:(March 7, 2013 at 6:01 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Dunno about you, but I find a great deal of irony in your response, given the nature of the language used in your OP. And in a thread pointing out the hypocrisy of others, no less!I posed a loaded question yes, but I won't answer them QED P.S. If your intent was for this thread to be a practical demonstration in hypocrisy, wow, you succeeded. Maybe not quite the way you intended. 
 (March 7, 2013 at 8:12 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:I'm happy that my country- Great Britain may God bless her- did what she did to your country. They killed the Nazis en masse.(March 7, 2013 at 8:03 pm)mo66 Wrote: I'm happy we agreed with the Qur'an and decimated your country
You still havent shown in any way how your holy book suposedly gave or gives the moral reasoning behind fighting the nazis and japanese in WW2 and how the quoran deserves any credit for V-Day!!!!
You should eighter give it! Appologise! Or fuck off!!! (March 7, 2013 at 8:28 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: You still havent shown in any way how your holy book suposedly gave or gives the moral reasoning behind fighting the nazis and japanese in WW2 and how the quoran deserves any credit for V-Day!!!!I'm not apologising for what happened to Germany, are you having a laugh haha It's a simple thing to understand. The Qur'an allows offensive warfare, Britain engaged in offensive warfare, I'm happy both of them have the same principles of warfare. Not too difficult to comprehend. |
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