Atheists; what do you base your morals on?

[ideologue08]

Love the honesty.

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Perfect.

one hundred percent of the world bases their morals on their feelings, when muslims feel the need to have sex outside of marriage, and the urge is strong enough they still do it, when they don't do it then it's because of guilt or a feeling of fear that they will burn in hell from the threats god has given them

I actually had a muslim taxi driver who was driving me to a girls house for a one night stand and he was asking me about the dating website i used, and he said oh no i couldn't do that I'd feel guilty about my wife. And i said yeh i don't blame you if you're married. And he said so what do you do just go on there put a picture up. I said yeh. He said right so that's plenty of fish right? And I'd just put that into google? And I said yeh. And he said so do i have to put all my information onto it? and do i have to put a picture up. After the whole convo was done i felt guilty and bad for his wife.

The moral of the story is muslims still obey their guilt or their urges

We Muslims are still bound by Islamic law, we have to curb our "urges" based upon Divine law.

[Nine]

We Muslims are still bound by Islamic law, we have to curb our "urges" based upon Divine law.

So its not innate.

[ideologue08]

"perception" coupled with "good will" and "logic".

Logic? Could you elaborate?

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We Muslims are still bound by Islamic law, we have to curb our "urges" based upon Divine law.

So its not innate.

Only the fundamentals are innate. Islamic law is certainly NOT innate, otherwise why would God bother to tell is when we could have figured it out ourselves. No, it's not innate. But fundamental morality IS innate( e.g I already figured out lying was wrong as a child before I was taught anything)

[Something completely different]

Just interested

Very simple actualy.


I learn

[ideologue08]

Just interested

Very simple actualy.


I learn

From where? Who do you learn from?

[paulpablo]

"perception" coupled with "good will" and "logic".

Logic? Could you elaborate?

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So its not innate.

Only the fundamentals are innate. Islamic law is certainly NOT innate, otherwise why would God bother to tell is when we could have figured it out ourselves. No, it's not innate. But fundamental morality IS innate( e.g I already figured out lying was wrong as a child before I was taught anything)

Lying isn't always wrong. A lot of people lie even when it's wrong and feel no guilt.
Actually people commit a lot of crime altogether and feel no guilt that's why we have prisons and stuff like that.

[Nine]

Only the fundamentals are innate. Islamic law is certainly NOT innate, otherwise why would God bother to tell is when we could have figured it out ourselves. No, it's not innate. But fundamental morality IS innate( e.g I already figured out lying was wrong as a child before I was taught anything)

My empathy and experience contradicts what Islamic law calls right and wrong.

[Something completely different]

From where? Who do you learn from?

Various different things.

There`s moral philosophers.
Sociological studies on what benefits sociaty best.
Moments in history.
Lessons to be learned out of social experiments.


When it comes to moral, I guess I simply take an issue and turn it arround like a coin, looking at it`s inner self and it`s construction from every possible view.

I ask questions over questions, but the most importent thing (especialy for a german) is - how do moral dilemas come to be? and how does evil come to be?

I dont want to view a moral problem from one perspective, but from as many as possible.

[frankiej]

Yeah, I lie often and feel no guilt.

It certainly is not innate.

[paulpablo]

"perception" coupled with "good will" and "logic".

Logic? Could you elaborate?

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So its not innate.

Only the fundamentals are innate. Islamic law is certainly NOT innate, otherwise why would God bother to tell is when we could have figured it out ourselves. No, it's not innate. But fundamental morality IS innate( e.g I already figured out lying was wrong as a child before I was taught anything)

You found out lying was wrong before you were taught ANYTHING!
you learned lying was wrong before you learned to talk or to walk or to say please and thank you? Impressive.