Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...

[genkaus]

@genkaus
Do you support the death penalty for murderers?

Yes.

[ideologue08]

@genkaus
Do you support the death penalty for murderers?

Yes.

Nice.

[genkaus]

You should learn the difference between biological or genetically human and an actual human being. The criteria you gave applies to all cells in your body and we do not regard all of them as human. Simply having 46 chromosomes is not sufficient, the fetus must also have developed to a certain level to be regarded as human.

"Sure, but it wasn't a True Human™" LOL

Can You tell me what species the fetus is?
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The same species as your hair.

[NoraBrimstone]

I don't see what relevance the species of a foetus is. It's still just a foetus.

Does this look like a person worthy of human rights to you??

[Mister Agenda]

Why can't the death penalty be a punishment?

Because we punish someone so they will modify their behavior. Dead people can't modifiy their behavior.

[EGross]

A fetus is almost always the same species as the mother (I am thinking horse+donkey=mule). And depending on your dogma, and it's cycle, it may or may not be alive. And if you share the same dogma, you will agree. And if you do not, you will not.

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Why can't the death penalty be a punishment?

Because we punish someone so they will modify their behavior. Dead people can't modifiy their behavior.

Jesus did! "Don't you touch me! I'm warning you..." And he quit bitching about the Pharisees too! Going to hell will do that to a non-person!

[ideologue08]

Why can't the death penalty be a punishment?

Because we punish someone so they will modify their behavior. Dead people can't modifiy their behavior.

You're begging the question. Why should we seek to modify, why not execute them?

[Mister Agenda]

Because we punish someone so they will modify their behavior. Dead people can't modifiy their behavior.

You're begging the question. Why should we seek to modify, why not execute them?

The question was 'Why can't the death penalty be a punishment?'. I fail to see how I did not answer it, or in what way it was question-begging.

Perhaps you should consider that your real question might be 'Why can't the death penalty be a deterrant'; to which I would say, although it doesn't seem to be statistically, there's no reason, in principle, that it could not be. Perhaps if it was swift and certtain enough, it would be an effective deterrant.

[ideologue08]

You're begging the question. Why should we seek to modify, why not execute them?

The question was 'Why can't the death penalty be a punishment?'. I fail to see how I did not answer it, or in what way it was question-begging.

Perhaps you should consider that your real question might be 'Why can't the death penalty be a deterrant'; to which I would say, although it doesn't seem to be statistically, there's no reason, in principle, that it could not be. Perhaps if it was swift and certtain enough, it would be an effective deterrant.

No; my question was why can't the death penalty be a punishment? The answer is of course it can be a punishment. There is no reason why a country cannot execute murderers as a punishment for what they have done.

[Something completely different]

certainty is required for a conviction.

a 100% certainty for a conviction cannot be a 100% assured.
therefor executing a convicet criminal can resort in executing an inocent person.

plus: executing someone means the state - means my representative - means myself is executing that person.
And I dont want blood on my hand.

plus.
execution is simply revenge and a legal system stands above that.

ps:
the both of us already had the same discussion, are you simply asking the same questions again so you can fap to it?