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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 1:34 am
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2013 at 1:37 am by catfish.)
lol, too fucking funny guys!
"Do the "people" deny basic biology to support their views? - Check!"
(March 16, 2013 at 1:32 am)Mr Infidel Wrote: (March 16, 2013 at 1:29 am)catfish Wrote: Then what is it and at what point does it become one?
Until it leaves its mother's womb, it is a fetus. Before the fetus stage, it is an unrecognizable bundle of cells, which is why abortion is legal. Most rational people consider the infant, out of its mother's womb, a human. I personally believe speech and cognitive processes need to be developed before it can be considered a human.
Right-o there. Very consistent with a person who doesn't value life. Props for being honest.
So, do you also support post-natal abortion up to 2 years of age (when the brain is fully developed)?
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 1:39 am
(March 16, 2013 at 1:34 am)catfish Wrote: Right-o there. Very consistent with a person who doesn't value life.
I am pro-choice, which is not anti-life. In fact, it is the pro-lifers who are the misnomers. They are not pro-life for the very fact that they care nothing of the baby once it is born. They only care that it is born. Therefore, they are pro-birth, not pro-life.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 1:44 am
So why is so hard for you guys to admit that a human fetus is a human?
Why is the definition of human influenced by the legality of the definition of a "person"?
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 2:34 am
(March 16, 2013 at 1:34 am)catfish Wrote: "Do the "people" deny basic biology to support their views? - Check!"
Alright, you keep saying this, that we're denying basic biology. So what I want you to do is, I want you to explain to us how that is. What are we denying?
By what definition do you claim that a fetus is a human? What is the basic biology that we're missing? Just genetics?
Because your toenail has human genetics too, but you don't consider it to be a distinct human life once you've cut it.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 2:44 am
(March 16, 2013 at 2:34 am)Esquilax Wrote: (March 16, 2013 at 1:34 am)catfish Wrote: "Do the "people" deny basic biology to support their views? - Check!"
Alright, you keep saying this, that we're denying basic biology. So what I want you to do is, I want you to explain to us how that is. What are we denying?
By what definition do you claim that a fetus is a human? What is the basic biology that we're missing? Just genetics?
Because your toenail has human genetics too, but you don't consider it to be a distinct human life once you've cut it.
And again? genkaus equated a fetus to a human hair and now you compare it to a toenail?
A tonail (or hair) has the host's DNA, a fetus is a unique individual lifeform with it's own DNA.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 2:50 am
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When you look at these you will find that a "human" is part fish-part reptile-part mammal... are you saying now that fish and reptiles are "human" too?
![[Image: Cst800.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=embryology.med.unsw.edu.au%2Fwwwhuman%2FStages%2FImages%2FCst800.jpg)
Another comparison between fish, salamander,tortoise, chicken, pig, calf, rabbit & human
![[Image: haeckel.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.nwcreation.net%2Fimages%2Fhaeckel.jpg)
Spot the difference in the foetus stage?  me neither.
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 2:56 am
That has got to be the dumbest argument yet... 
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 3:00 am
(March 16, 2013 at 2:56 am)catfish Wrote: That has got to be the dumbest argument yet...
Sorry catfud... you directing that statement to me?
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 3:06 am
(March 16, 2013 at 3:00 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (March 16, 2013 at 2:56 am)catfish Wrote: That has got to be the dumbest argument yet...
Sorry catfud... you directing that statement to me?
Yes, of course I'm directing it to you. Did you really need to ask?
So, how many women have you known that have suspected that the fetus they were carrying was in fact, a fish???
Do you think it would be reasonable to think that a human would have any fetus inside of her except for a human one?
Is this where you deny basic biological facts too? (even after you posted the developemental stages of a human?)
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RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 3:13 am
(March 16, 2013 at 3:06 am)catfish Wrote: (March 16, 2013 at 3:00 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Sorry catfud... you directing that statement to me?
Yes, of course I'm directing it to you. Did you really need to ask?
So, how many women have you known that have suspected that the fetus they were carrying was in fact, a fish???
Do you think it would be reasonable to think that a human would have any fetus inside of her except for a human one?
Is this where you deny basic biological facts too? (even after you posted the developemental stages of a human?)
Not only are you a poor communicator but also you have never studied biology.
The results I posted are from scientific papers submitted by prominent universities and can be obsereved by anyon with an ultrasound or a scalpel.
You really have no argument have you catfud. You just like getting your head shoved further up your anal cavity. Wow: talk about rectal problems!
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