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RE: Am I a "liberal"?
September 4, 2009 at 12:53 pm
(September 4, 2009 at 12:40 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Humanity is a species, and there are different races. And to be racist, to hate another race, to hate the colour of someone's skin, to hate someone for how they were born as if it's any 'worse' than the way you were - is horribly immoral. And what makes it even worse, is the fact it's so common.
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Of course it is immoral... and i despise how common it is as well
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RE: Am I a "liberal"?
September 4, 2009 at 12:53 pm
(September 4, 2009 at 12:48 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Race is different to culture right? It's another form of prejudice yes, although I don't think it's quite as bad, because race is a more physical thing so it's even closer to the person, even more personal. Not something anyone should be able to 'attack'.
I mean like, if some Brits and French are prejudice to each other because they're a different country, that's not prejudice between races because there are a mixture of races in Britain and France. Right?
Or have I misunderstood you or something?
@ bozo, I think racism is a particularly nasty form of bigotry. Bigotry is a very broad thing indeed.
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I agree racism is worse but bigotry is not nice either.
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RE: Am I a "liberal"?
September 4, 2009 at 12:54 pm
@ Saerules, I know, it's just hard not to state the obvious lol.
@ bozo, yeah I agree racism is worse but bigotry isn't nice. But I'd say the rest of bigotry isn't quite as bad. The rest. Because as I said, I think racism is just a particularly nasty form of bigotry. Racism is a display of bigotry if I've ever seen one.
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RE: Am I a "liberal"?
September 4, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Bigotry, racism, it's a pretty close race to me. Both are unacceptable. Unfortunately, as long as people are different, both will exist 
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RE: Am I a "liberal"?
September 4, 2009 at 1:08 pm
No... only as long as people FEAR difference, will it exist.
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RE: Am I a "liberal"?
September 4, 2009 at 1:11 pm
It's certainly motivated by fear, but also the urge to oppress others that are different in general I think.
In some cases perhaps it could not be motivated by fear, but just a desire to control others, for instance. Highly immoral.
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RE: Am I a "liberal"?
September 4, 2009 at 1:14 pm
True, revision: so long as people are afraid of difference, or want to control difference: bigotry will never be conquered.
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RE: Am I a "liberal"?
September 4, 2009 at 1:17 pm
So how did we get from being liberal to being racist?
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RE: Am I a "liberal"?
September 4, 2009 at 1:17 pm
@ Saerules Yeah, sorry, I'm a pedantic bastard lol. I like being thorough and exposing gaps. I always do this, so I'm not showing off lol. It's not clever, it's just pedantry.
It's motivated by inquisitiveness though  And a whole lot of analysing.
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@ Binny, perhaps because racism is kind of on the opposite side of the corn? No idea really...I'd have to re-read the whole thread.
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RE: Am I a "liberal"?
September 4, 2009 at 1:21 pm
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(September 4, 2009 at 1:17 pm)binny Wrote: So how did we get from being liberal to being racist?
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Oh no, it was justified. I forgot about that primary motivator
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