Muslims are starting to become annoying here

[Something completely different]

In the past few years the islamic comunity here has become more and more to a threat. Attacks on journalists, attacks on the police, attacks against other groups, a lone wolf terror attack, honor killings, a foiled terror attack and cities which have districts unsafe for unvailed women to go through, such as in Berlin and Bonn. This is especialy a phenomenon coming up throughout the western world and not only in Germany. With islamic preachers such as the Australian Iman Sheik Faiz Mohammed saing that:

a rape victim has nobody else to blame but herself

The Londoner cleric Sheik Yusaf al-Qaradawi saying:

Not the rapist should be punished but the rape victim, when she hasnt dressed apropriatly in islamic tradition.

Germany doesnt make crime statistics categorising into religion or ethnicity.

But the statistics from foreign countries say enought.

Sweden probably says the most, it had the most liberal imigration policies. And following that has turned into the nation in Europe where most rapes occur. With 85% of all rapes being commited by imigrants or the offspring of imigrants from non western countries.

What motivated me to open this thread was that this week a plot was foilded to murder the leader of a right wing party in Germany, who openly stated that islam is a violent religion.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschlan...88738.html

It seems that after WW2 deportation became a "unword", yet it doesnt take a genius to see how the islamic world of today vastly contains people which have almoust the same views like fashists.
I am sick of being assosiated with being "a racist" if I dont agree to having to give a peacefull harbor to people who violently fight democracy and disregard all moral principles represented by a democracy.

I dont have a problem with imigration and actualy welcome imigrants from eastern europe, southern europe, east asia and southern africa.

But a person who thinks he can rape a woman without legal consequences should be sent back to the muslim world where he can do so without facing legal consequences.

Just like people who think they have the moral obligation to overthrow the democracy they live in and it`s moral principles.

[Angrboda]

Welcome to pluralism.

[Something completely different]

pluralism does not extend to those who reject it

[Minimalist]

I agree with you, TGAC. They pretty much suck.

[KichigaiNeko]

Even pluralism is getting fed-up with these people who think they are outside the law of the land because of their religion.

[Brakeman]

Oh that someday we will classify religion as a mental illness and prohibit entry into the western countries until healthy, just as we do with those that have the swine flu or tuberculosis.

[KichigaiNeko]

one day hopefully...

Guess I'm trying to live in the 23rd century.

[Aractus]

Good post Germans!

As a Christian, I don't understand how any other Christian can stomach the Islamic culture. Well unless they're pragmatists I guess, like this guy...

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With islamic preachers such as the Australian Iman Sheik Faiz Mohammed saing that:

a rape victim has nobody else to blame but herself

The Londoner cleric Sheik Yusaf al-Qaradawi saying:

Not the rapist should be punished but the rape victim, when she hasnt dressed apropriatly in islamic tradition.

That's disgusting. What they're saying is that they believe men are unable to control their violent and abusive behaviour. As a man I think such an argument is downright bullshit - nobody can force me to rape and pillage.

[The Magic Pudding]

But a person who thinks he can rape a woman without legal consequences should be sent back to the muslim world where he can do so without facing legal consequences.

Just like people who think they have the moral obligation to overthrow the democracy they live in and it`s moral principles.

Ye I sympathise but that does sound like wishing for a magic button.

[Creed of Heresy]

I dunno what it is about muslims but man, when they get loud, they get LOUD. Given this sort of thing:

http://global.christianpost.com/news/fou...ers-90612/

...Yeah. You know, I used to sympathize with muslims. At first. They were, in the US, a religious minority, being trod upon and spat on because of what happened in the 9/11 attacks. But then they started spitting the diatribe and vitriol everywhere; kill this guy, kill that guy, slit her throat, murder him, stone them, blow these people up, and I kept hearing people telling me "don't judge all muslims by these crazy few!"

Uh, yeah, I wouldn't...except for how chillingly silent so very many muslims are on the subject. I've brought the question of whether or not they support these actions to muslims in person and most of the time there is an uncomfortable silence followed by a lot of evasion. A few vehemently opposed it, though.

Still, conservative islam is perhaps the most destructive, wasteful, prohibitive, inhibitive, and problematic religion in existence. At this point I would gladly stand alongside a catholic so long as they were opposing a muslim fundie, it's gotten to THAT point. They had a ten year timespan to go ahead and try to prove they weren't the barbaric, medieval savages the stereotypes made them out to be. They've done worse than fail to address it; they've addressed it and made the stereotype ring uncomfortably true.