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How to tell a real freethinker

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How to tell a real freethinker
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RE: How to tell a real freethinker
April 30, 2013 at 4:26 pm (This post was last modified: April 30, 2013 at 4:28 pm by Darkstar.)
(April 30, 2013 at 4:03 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Honest theology doesn't question the existence of God,
At which point it loses all credibility. Unfalsifiable presuppositions that are never allowed to be challenged are not your friend. (Well, at least they shouldn't be...) Theology has to presuppose god or it wouldn't even exist in the first place, so of course theology will tell you that god exists.
(April 30, 2013 at 4:03 pm)jstrodel Wrote: If you don't care about being a good person enough to do this, then I don't really care that you won't find God, because you don't deserve God.

How is "good person" defined here?
Jeremiah 48:10
10 “A curse on anyone who is lax in doing the Lord’s work!
A curse on anyone who keeps their sword from bloodshed!
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RE: How to tell a real freethinker
April 30, 2013 at 4:37 pm (This post was last modified: April 30, 2013 at 4:44 pm by Ryantology.)
(April 30, 2013 at 4:03 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Honest theology

is listed between 'dry water' and 'living dead' on a list of oxymorons.
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RE: How to tell a real freethinker
May 1, 2013 at 2:41 am
(April 30, 2013 at 4:03 pm)jstrodel Wrote: Honest theology doesn't question the existence of God, because when you draw near to God and seriously abandon yourself to the holiness of God and renounce the world, you start to experience God in very real and tangible ways.

Yup, that's why it's a faith based proposition rather than an evidence based one; you can't find any evidence, but you keep on believing anyway. Not incredibly compelling.

Quote:Most people don't experience God like this because they don't do this, they just go to church. There is nowhere in the Bible where it says if you merely goto church that you will experience God, if you want to experience God you must determine in your heart that you will resist everything in your life that is opposed to you becoming a good person.

I hate this about christianity, this dogged need to make "good" and "god" synonyms. They aren't.

Quote:If you don't care about being a good person enough to do this, then I don't really care that you won't find God, because you don't deserve God.

Isn't it a big part of your theology that nobody deserves god, that we're all base sinners and it's only through a spectacular act of forgiveness that any of us are allowed access to him? Thinking
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RE: How to tell a real freethinker
May 1, 2013 at 2:46 am
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RE: How to tell a real freethinker
May 1, 2013 at 9:38 am
(May 1, 2013 at 2:46 am)Dragonetti Wrote: History is written by the winners!

Oh Bugger Dodgy Does this mean atheists are going to have to re-write history so it is correct?







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