RE: Islam or Atheism
March 30, 2013 at 9:37 pm
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2013 at 9:38 pm by Joel.)
I was replying to (correcting) you, MuslimGuy.
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 RE: Islam or Atheism
March 30, 2013 at 9:38 pm
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2013 at 9:40 pm by ThatMuslimGuy2.)
Rhythm to long. Watch Hamzas opening statement.
Oh sorry joel. Thought that was what you said not German. Thanks for the correction.
Allah says in the Qur'an:
ادْعُ إِلَىٰ سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ ۚ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنْ ضَلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ ۖ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ "Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided." [Surah 16:125] Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said: “The most complete in faith are those best in their character, those who are easy to socialise with, and those who get along with others and others get along with them. There is no good in the one who cannot get along with others and others cannot get along with him.” -Tirmidhi Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6307: 'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “Truth leads one to Paradise and virtue leads one to Paradise and the person tells the truth until he is recorded as truthful, and lie leads to obscenity and obscenity leads to Hell, and the person tells a lie until he is recorded as a liar.”  RE: Islam or Atheism
March 30, 2013 at 9:43 pm
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(March 30, 2013 at 9:34 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: IERA is not an Islamic Channel. They organised debates called TheBigDebates so far with three Atheist so Muslims and non muslims can learn about each other. Nope just the debate. so why does the channel description say: Quote:iERA is a global dawah organisation committed to presenting Islam to wider society Or are they simply trolling? which would be very unprofessional. And most importent: does this video include the entire debate? and is the moderator biased? Quote:And i think thats a Little arrogant to say whoever left Atheism to Theism "Has no idea what Atheism is. I was Atheist for three years. I know why i became Atheist the same reasons many people have pn this site.So i do feel like, as i used to assume, that you see Muslim n think i dont understand Atheism. I do then explain. because every single theist claiming to have been an atheist simply does so so he can convey his arguments on a personal level by faking a "level of maturity". And not a single one of them mentioned their expirience with atheism in another way. RE: Islam or Atheism
March 30, 2013 at 9:44 pm
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(March 30, 2013 at 9:38 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Rhythm to long. Watch Hamzas opening statement. Sound is out on my PC, you can't take the time...? What kind of discussion are you expecting? All you have to do is give me the name of an argument (if it has a name) or the cliff notes. Not the whole thing, just one thing that made your ears stand up.
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 RE: Islam or Atheism
March 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm by Joel.)
Quote:because every single theist claiming to have been an atheist simply does so so he can convey his arguments on a personal level by faking a "level of maturity". And not a single one of them mentioned their expirience with atheism in another way. Yet when we say - and provide explanation for - "I used to be a theist of type X." they'll say "Ah! Well you weren't a true X." Generally, Christians do this the most.  RE: Islam or Atheism
March 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2013 at 9:46 pm by Ryantology.)
How does one even go from atheism to "actually, the idea that this particular (and no other) invisible magical monster made the universe all by himself for no reason sounds more likely to be true, I think I'll go with that"?
RE: Islam or Atheism
March 30, 2013 at 9:47 pm
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2013 at 9:48 pm by ThatMuslimGuy2.)
Ok in nut shell. was Christian. Started thinking. Pick up bible. Its fucking horrible. Contradictory etc. As the burden of proof is on the Theist became Atheist.
IERA is a dawah organisation that tell people about Islam answer questions ppl have (March 30, 2013 at 9:45 pm)Ryantology Wrote: How does one even go from atheism to "actually, the idea that this particular (and no other) invisible magical monster made the universe all by himself for no reason sounds more likely to be true, I think I'll go with that"? Evidence and Proof
Allah says in the Qur'an:
ادْعُ إِلَىٰ سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ ۚ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنْ ضَلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ ۖ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ "Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided." [Surah 16:125] Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said: “The most complete in faith are those best in their character, those who are easy to socialise with, and those who get along with others and others get along with them. There is no good in the one who cannot get along with others and others cannot get along with him.” -Tirmidhi Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6307: 'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “Truth leads one to Paradise and virtue leads one to Paradise and the person tells the truth until he is recorded as truthful, and lie leads to obscenity and obscenity leads to Hell, and the person tells a lie until he is recorded as a liar.” Quote:Ok in nut shell. was Christian. Started thinking. Pick up bible. Its fucking horrible. Contradictory etc.And you thought the Quran was better!? Never have I heard such nonsense. (March 30, 2013 at 9:48 pm)Joel Wrote:Yeah never read anything immoral in the Qur'an. Never read Phrophet lot having sex with his daughters. Etc etcQuote:Ok in nut shell. was Christian. Started thinking. Pick up bible. Its fucking horrible. Contradictory etc.And you thought the Quran was better!?
Allah says in the Qur'an:
ادْعُ إِلَىٰ سَبِيلِ رَبِّكَ بِالْحِكْمَةِ وَالْمَوْعِظَةِ الْحَسَنَةِ ۖ وَجَادِلْهُمْ بِالَّتِي هِيَ أَحْسَنُ ۚ إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِمَنْ ضَلَّ عَنْ سَبِيلِهِ ۖ وَهُوَ أَعْلَمُ بِالْمُهْتَدِينَ "Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided." [Surah 16:125] Prophet Muhammad (SAW) said: “The most complete in faith are those best in their character, those who are easy to socialise with, and those who get along with others and others get along with them. There is no good in the one who cannot get along with others and others cannot get along with him.” -Tirmidhi Sahih Muslim, Book 32, Number 6307: 'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: “Truth leads one to Paradise and virtue leads one to Paradise and the person tells the truth until he is recorded as truthful, and lie leads to obscenity and obscenity leads to Hell, and the person tells a lie until he is recorded as a liar.” (March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote:(March 30, 2013 at 9:48 pm)Joel Wrote: And you thought the Quran was better!?Yeah never read anything immoral in the Qur'an. Never read Phrophet lot having sex with his daughters. Etc etc Maybe you should learn to read, then. |
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