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RE: Show me your proof
April 19, 2013 at 5:19 pm
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(April 19, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Tex Wrote: (April 18, 2013 at 11:37 pm)smax Wrote: What's that, to kill off all the life it's currently supporting?
Again, poor design.
Its perfect design. Fusion can't magically sustain itself forever. Magic is a terribly incoherent design. indeed it is... so how did your creator make the universe, if not by magic?
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Re: Show me your proof
April 19, 2013 at 5:27 pm
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Here is my proof:
There.
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RE: Show me your proof
April 19, 2013 at 5:47 pm
(April 19, 2013 at 5:19 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (April 19, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Tex Wrote: Its perfect design. Fusion can't magically sustain itself forever. Magic is a terribly incoherent design. indeed it is... so how did your creator make the universe, if not by magic?
If God is Existence, creation isn't such a difficult thing. Just like you and I can make a table from trees, God can make a tree from his own omnipotence.
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RE: Show me your proof
April 19, 2013 at 5:47 pm
(April 19, 2013 at 5:19 pm)pocaracas Wrote: (April 19, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Tex Wrote: Its perfect design. Fusion can't magically sustain itself forever. Magic is a terribly incoherent design. indeed it is... so how did your creator make the universe, if not by magic?
In his image.. I mean his imagination, yeah, that's it.
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RE: Show me your proof
April 19, 2013 at 6:35 pm
You people crack me up.... redefining words...
god is existence, that's a first...
The Universe comes from god's imagination... another first...
Keep it up.
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RE: Show me your proof
April 19, 2013 at 7:18 pm
I thought god made the universe from the corpse of Tiamat.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Show me your proof
April 19, 2013 at 8:00 pm
pocaracas Wrote:You people crack me up.... redefining words...
god is existence, that's a first...
Linky linky!
Written 13th century. Here's the last sentence, emphasis added.
"It is evident, therefore, that an intelligence is form and an act of existing, and that it has its act of existing from the First Being which is (simply) existence only; and this it the First Cause, God."
" Patet ergo quod intelligentia est forma et esse et quod esse habet a primo ente, quod est esse tantum. Et hoc est causa prima, quae deus est."
Augustine says the same thing (go to chapter 16, look for "Supreme Substance").
"And I inquired what iniquity was, and ascertained it not to be a substance, but a perversion of the will, bent aside from You, O God, the Supreme Substance, towards these lower things, and casting out its bowels, and swelling outwardly."
" et quaesivi, quid esset iniquitas, et non inveni substantiam, sed a summa substantia, te deo, detortae in infima voluntatis perversitatem proicientis intima sua et tumescentis foras."
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RE: Show me your proof
April 19, 2013 at 8:10 pm
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(April 19, 2013 at 5:47 pm)Tex Wrote: If God is Existence, creation isn't such a difficult thing. Just like you and I can make a table from trees, God can make a tree from his own omnipotence. We require some help from the tree (and all the help it requires) Just like that, eh? I'd be inclined to agree. God has no trouble creating things provided that things take the time to create him. Still magic, by the by, whether you think it's easy for a god or not (whether or not something is difficult is not what determines whether or not it is magical). Maybe call it simple magic, or amatuer magic (sure looks like the former and the latter to me).
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RE: Show me your proof
April 19, 2013 at 9:00 pm
I really wish Rhythm would actually give input rather than just smile at his own posts...
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RE: Show me your proof
April 19, 2013 at 9:18 pm
I prefer to do both simultaneously.
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