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Hope, satisfaction and logic.
April 19, 2013 at 7:38 am
Lets take Atheism perspective on life.
Life or indiviuality is like a random, chaotic sparkl that came from ''nothing'' and will disappier completly.
Logically if life has and ending, totall disappierence of conchesness, then life has no meaning.
Its like a car that drives on a long road and this road has deadend which will result in crash. No matter what you do in the car till crash has no meaning because everything will be smashed.
If we think that this is our first and last life and there is no God.
Then we can do anything, no God, no rules, no cosequences.
Then there is this Big Bang theory.
Its a Biggest blast where dead matter and energy created unimaiginbly extreme heat and pressure, then cooled down to extreme cold.
How from bigGest bang something fragile as life and infinite as conchusness whit its endless stream of desiers and toughts, hopes and illusions came to life, from a cold dead matter after being unimaginably hot and pressurised?
Atheism is a belief. A belief that there is no God.
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RE: Hope, satisfaction and logic.
April 19, 2013 at 7:41 am
(March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Never read anything immoral in the Qur'an.
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RE: Hope, satisfaction and logic.
April 19, 2013 at 8:13 am
Teistic view in short.
Atomic part of Gods body, soul emits signal, conchessness.
God creates matrix, a world where live right now.
Tru Rule of Karma and 3 energies God rules matrix.
Energy of Ignorance, destruction. Leads to hell. People get trapped in this energy tru pleasure and violence. Everything that gives pleasure - leads to addiction - drugs - soon death. People like drug addicts, alcoholic, pc addicts, pervs, food even violence gives pleasure and so on. Life spins around stimulating production of pleasure hormones - endhophine, adrenaline other pleasure hormones
Energy of Passion. Leads to earth like planet acording to karma. Peoples minds get dominated by energy of passion tru work, family, fame, power, money - progress. Its like a donkey that runs after carrot attached to his back whit stick. Can lead to state of ignrance, selfdestruction.
Energy of Goodness. Belief in reincarnation, karma and because of that people invest energy they gain tru work and not consume like in state of ignorance or passion. Altruism, humanism, patriotism, religion, spirituality - giving instead of consuming or accumilating.
There are 2 ways out of matrix.
Way of nirvana, enlightment, buddism. Result is like a dream whitout dreams. No pain of mateiral world, no happines of spiritual world. Souls from nirvana get back to matrix coz nirvana is deadend or deepsleep.
And world of God. World of unselfish serving where souls gain unimaginable joy and satisfaction from serving God.
World of God is place where all souls will find their way sooner or later.
In summary.
Matrix.
Hellish planetary systems. Temporary - untill enough sins are cleaned tru pain to get to medium planetary systems.
Medium planetary systems. A place of work because on planets like earth is possible to do good things to evolve spiritually.
Paradise pl sys. Temporary place where only speding of good deeds, suffering endured tru work on medium systems turned in to pleasure.
When good deeds are spend your droping back medium planets to earn more. If you dont earn and continue to spend, then hell is the place where penalties are involved.
I heard that in hell, suffering can be as thousnd times much higher then here and pleasure in paradise is higher then here thousnd times depending of your good deed account.
Atheism points of view - enjoy your first and last life and dont worry, be happy.
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RE: Hope, satisfaction and logic.
April 19, 2013 at 8:33 am
(April 19, 2013 at 8:13 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Teistic view in short.
Atomic part of Gods body, soul emits signal, conchessness.
Did you say...
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...CONCHESSNESS?
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RE: Hope, satisfaction and logic.
April 19, 2013 at 9:56 am
(This post was last modified: April 19, 2013 at 9:58 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 19, 2013 at 7:38 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Lets take Atheism perspective on life. I wish more people would..lol
Quote:Life or indiviuality is like a random, chaotic sparkl that came from ''nothing'' and will disappier completly.
Nothing to do with atheism (a pattern that I see continuing throughout the post), and completely incorrect on top of it. There are quite a few steps between "nothing" and "life", and life (along with all known things) never "disappears completely.
Quote:Logically if life has and ending, totall disappierence of conchesness, then life has no meaning.
I think it's amusing that you started this sentence with logic and then proceeded to leverage precisely none. My death won't rob my life of meaning any more than the death of a daisy robs it's life of meaning.
Quote:Its like a car that drives on a long road and this road has deadend which will result in crash. No matter what you do in the car till crash has no meaning because everything will be smashed.
Except that life has no dead-end in sight. Your life persists even after your death without any invocation of ghosts or magic. So I guess it;s nothing like that at all, IMO.
Quote:If we think that this is our first and last life and there is no God.
Then we can do anything, no God, no rules, no cosequences.
First life I'm aware of, it;ll be my last one as well. Gods are thin on the ground and thin in the air - and still I don;t think that I'm "free" to do anything- everywhere I turn there are rules. There are certainly consequences to anything I might choose to do...why those would disappear when fairies no longer fly is beyond me.
Quote:Then there is this Big Bang theory.
Its a Biggest blast where dead matter and energy created unimaiginbly extreme heat and pressure, then cooled down to extreme cold.
How from bigGest bang something fragile as life and infinite as conchusness whit its endless stream of desiers and toughts, hopes and illusions came to life, from a cold dead matter after being unimaginably hot and pressurised?
If life was around when something like that wen;t down there probably wouldn't be much of it left. Thankfully, our brand of life seems to have arisen in a calmer, more sheltered corner and time.
Quote:Atheism is a belief. A belief that there is no God.
LOL, the first time you actually addressed atheism in the post and it's sorely disappointing. Something that may never have occurred to you....how would any of the above be different in the presence of a god? That whole diatribe would still apply (ignoring any need to correct it in detail).
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RE: Hope, satisfaction and logic.
April 19, 2013 at 10:03 am
You fed the troll.... why?!?!
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RE: Hope, satisfaction and logic.
April 19, 2013 at 10:07 am
To extend the benefit of the doubt, lol. Just going through the motions. 
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Hope, satisfaction and logic.
April 19, 2013 at 10:07 am
Aw, he looked hungry. Poor little guy.
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RE: Hope, satisfaction and logic.
April 19, 2013 at 10:28 am
That how pest infestations start...
You feed one, then another and, before you know it, you're overrun!
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RE: Hope, satisfaction and logic.
April 19, 2013 at 10:43 am
(This post was last modified: April 19, 2013 at 10:43 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Meh, we're well beyond starting. This forum has permanent pests already. I'm not gonna worry about having -jut one more- roach in the walls.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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