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AF Hall of Shame (Theist edition)
RE: AF Hall of Shame (Theist edition)
(May 5, 2013 at 7:46 am)apophenia Wrote: I think that's more fr0d0 than this topic in particular. He tends to answer things that way regardless of the issue.

After seeing his latest reply, I'd have to agree.

Fr0d0: saying "it's dumb," is not an answer, or an argument, nor an elucidation or explanation. It's fuckery.
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RE: AF Hall of Shame (Theist edition)
Then go look at what I actually said Esq
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RE: AF Hall of Shame (Theist edition)
(May 4, 2013 at 1:53 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Stupid in the most basic usage of the term stupid. That's how. Nothing complex. Smack your head on the desk stupid.

No, I understand what stupid means, I meant what is it about the post that makes it stupid? I apologise if this has already been addressed, it's not really convenient for me to go through the last couple of pages right now looking for it.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: AF Hall of Shame (Theist edition)
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RE: AF Hall of Shame (Theist edition)
Oops wrong thread.

Good cannot commit murder, as murder is unjust killing. Rape... can that ever be justified? I didn't think so.

@ Stimbo : Ryan sets up an impossible straw man in every argument. It's too funny. Then he shoots it down like anyone should be surprised. To me it's hilarious. He keeps doing it. I guess he really doesn't have the first incling of what any theist is saying in all of the time he's been here. It's kind of remarkable that anyone could be that stupid.
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RE: AF Hall of Shame (Theist edition)
Yeah..Drichlet and that issue of god sanctified murder and rape is what got me posting in these forums in the first place. Has he asked you if you'd kill someone who was raping you and your family on a weekly basis? I'm still not quite sure why weekly basis was put in there, but hey.
Btw my phones autocorrect made that nickname up and I refuse to correct it cuz its funny. Even inanimate technology doesn't take him seriously.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: AF Hall of Shame (Theist edition)
modalities26 hmm not so good :)
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RE: AF Hall of Shame (Theist edition)
Frodo according to the Bible, anything god does or commands is just and good. Drich believes what the actual teachings of the Bible say, and based on the actions and commands, favorism and demands of god: if he told you to rape or smash the skulls of babies or tear them from their mothers womb: its all peachy fine and dandy.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: AF Hall of Shame (Theist edition)
Did you spot me disagreeing up there MissyC??

I think we're splitting hairs over definitions. I haven't seen the origianl context, but you can see from my brief objection where I think the problem lies.

God never ever commits murder. God kills justly. He is incapable of evil. If your interpretation of his act is evil, yet the intention of the original author is different: as testified by the authors parallel description of that God as righteous and wholly good, then the onus is upon you to demonstrate the error. You don't get to state black is white without demonstrating it. That's what you want, but I require more of the subject than you do apparently.

Maybe Drich, like you, gets it wrong. Drich isn't God. He has no need to be perfect. Neither did you as a Christian.
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RE: AF Hall of Shame (Theist edition)
(May 13, 2013 at 5:31 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: God never ever commits murder. God kills justly.

But Frodo, what about "Do not kill"? How isn't it hypocritical of God to kill, when he denies you it? And isn't all life sacred? Why is some people better to kill than others?
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura

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