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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 6, 2013 at 11:49 pm
The Scripture you quoted actually comes from the Annals of the Kings of Judah and Israel (two separate books lost probably around 586 BCE just shortly before the Torah was compiled).
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 7, 2013 at 4:09 am
(May 5, 2013 at 7:43 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Thanks for the sincerity!
Before we go to other major fallacies.
Now, how do you know that other "Major" statements in the bible are true or false? Because they involve more than changing one single letter of Hebrew.
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 7, 2013 at 6:08 am
Has no one here ever read or seen "The Bible Unearthed"?
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 7, 2013 at 6:34 am
A muslim should be careful to point out the errors in the bible...given that since his religion relies on the bible to be accurate in order to give his own religion legitimacy, condemning the bible as erroneous might lead him to realize his own religion is erroneous...and he might turn out to be one of those vile, hated apostates you guys love to lynch and kill and murder.
And we couldn't have THAT, now could we.
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 8, 2013 at 4:35 am
(May 7, 2013 at 6:34 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: A muslim should be careful to point out the errors in the bible...given that since his religion relies on the bible to be accurate in order to give his own religion legitimacy, condemning the bible as erroneous might lead him to realize his own religion is erroneous...and he might turn out to be one of those vile, hated apostates you guys love to lynch and kill and murder. You need to understand the correct Islamic view about the Bible and Christianity!
There is no religion called Christianity, Jesus was a Jewish prophet who came to guide the Jews back to Judaism (He said that in the current Bible)
The Current Bible was altered by many people throw history, so it cannot be trusted, it has some truth but we don't know which!
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 8, 2013 at 4:39 am
(May 8, 2013 at 4:35 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: (May 7, 2013 at 6:34 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: A muslim should be careful to point out the errors in the bible...given that since his religion relies on the bible to be accurate in order to give his own religion legitimacy, condemning the bible as erroneous might lead him to realize his own religion is erroneous...and he might turn out to be one of those vile, hated apostates you guys love to lynch and kill and murder. You need to understand the correct Islamic view about the Bible and Christianity!
There is no religion called Christianity, Jesus was a Jewish prophet who came to guide the Jews back to Judaism (He said that in the current Bible)
The Current Bible was altered by many people throw history, so it cannot be trusted, it has some truth but we don't know which!
Just like the Koran.
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 8, 2013 at 4:41 am
(May 7, 2013 at 4:09 am)Aractus Wrote: (May 5, 2013 at 7:43 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Thanks for the sincerity!
Before we go to other major fallacies.
Now, how do you know that other "Major" statements in the bible are true or false? Because they involve more than changing one single letter of Hebrew. I don't really understand what do you say here?
I'm asking you for a proof that any statement in the Bible is true or false (i.e. from God)
It is not about translation at all!
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 8, 2013 at 5:01 am
I am still waiting for you to respond to my last post.
(May 8, 2013 at 4:35 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: You need to understand the correct Islamic view about the Bible and Christianity!
There is no religion called Christianity, Jesus was a Jewish prophet who came to guide the Jews back to Judaism (He said that in the current Bible)
The Current Bible was altered by many people throw history, so it cannot be trusted, it has some truth but we don't know which!
- Acts 11:26: and when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught a great many people. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians.
Acts 26:28: And Agrippa said to Paul, “In a short time would you persuade me to be a Christian?”
1 Peter 4:16: Yet if anyone suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in that name.
Galatians 2:16: yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.
Luke 22:19-20: And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “THIS IS MY BODY, WHICH IS GIVEN FOR YOU. DO THIS IN REMEMBRANCE OF ME.” And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “THIS CUP THAT IS POURED OUT FOR YOU IS THE NEW COVENANT IN MY BLOOD.
John 14:6-7: Jesus said to him, “I AM THE WAY, AND THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE. NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME. IF YOU HAD KNOWN ME, YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN MY FATHER ALSO. FROM NOW ON YOU DO KNOW HIM AND HAVE SEEN HIM.”
Acts 2:38: And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 8, 2013 at 5:09 am
He never responded to Quran is younger than the Bible by 500 years.
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RE: Why the bible cannot be trusted?
May 8, 2013 at 6:29 am
Muslims are taught that the Bible has been altered and that Muhammad the paedophile came to "fix" it.
And by fixing it I don't mean rewriting sections like you find in the Samaritan Pentateuch - oh no, lol! But by decreeing that a man can marry a six year old (as long as she's a virgin)!
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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