Definition of and evidence for the holocaust

[CapnAwesome]

One of the really ironic thing about holocaust denial is that it all comes from nazis who would like nothing more than to see lots of jews massacred. "There wasn't a holocaust......but there should of been!" Give me a fucking break.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

You guys are all idiots. You're arguing with someone who, essentially, believes that the moon landings were a hoax and a conspiracy and therefore all the "evidence" is really the work of those behind the conspiracy!

It appears all the holohuggers are liars now that you have chimed in with that invention.

You give him pictures, and he says "those are of something else, nana-nana", so what? You show pictures in a court of law, they are what they are, it's up to the other side to disprove your evidence once it has been lodged, not up to you to prove the identity of everybody in the picture.

Again you lie. For the pictures I asked for evidence of what the pictures were of as you know yet you lie.

For there to be a genuine chance of there being a conspiracy you have to bring evidence that one exists. You have to show that it is possible that a conspiracy may exist, and you have to be able to show that the evidence does not fit the official version of events.

And you also know not one single holohugger here has presented the least description of the official version so again you lie.

Once the conspiracy theorist dismisses evidence he doesn't like, you know he's living in lala land. There's simply no excusing it; nobody dismisses evidence before it can be proved that the evidence itself is bad, or without good reason to believe it so.

So your only response is a string of lies. Again it appears all holohuggers are liars. One reasonably assumes from that that everything they present is also lies. No conspiracy just a bunch of unmitigated liars peddling nothing they know anything about. Might as well be selling snake oil.

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How can anything be evidence for something no one can define? A real big non sequitur there.

I have not said anything like it could be falsified which you for a fact from reading my posts. Why do you invent that false accusation. Do you enjoy lying?

Well as I was predicting the sort of thing you would say and not misquoting you I find your hissy fit rather amusing.

I made that comment because of your twisting the facts about Hitlers beliefs, you managed to persuade yourself that someone who professed a belief in god in writing many many times could not be a theist because it would be good politics to put on a christian front.

This would be like saying Pope John Paul did not believe in god, sure all he evidence says he did, but what he believed in his heart, can we really know for sure?

DIE THREAD DIE.

You have still not demonstrated you have the least knowledge of what this holocaust thing is you appear to want to defend. Why not take a shot in the dark with a definition I have not agreed with?

I have not said a single word about Hitler's religious beliefs. Again you demonstrate all holohuggers are liars -- at least I have not found an honest one here. They have no integrity. That must be what it takes to believe in the undefined.

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You guys are all idiots. You're arguing with someone who, essentially, believes that the moon landings were a hoax

people who believe the moon landings were a hoax actually believe that it was a hoax......... which is actually a fun conspiracy too debate because even if the first landing was a hoax...... it really doesn't mean fuck all............

holocaust deniers are neo nazis (and in some rare cases ultra militant muslims) who KNOW FOR A FACT that the holocaust was real

this pathetic excuse for a person knows the holocaust was real but thinks if he can deny the holocaust enough (something which is a crime in dozens of countries) he can bring back nazi politics....unfortunately he's realized atheist websites permit blatant religous bigotry and most racist politics.....

never the less.........other than the fact that inbreeding produces freakish humans..............see hapsburg jaw syndrome...............



and the fact that most nazis believe aryans were related too an alien race............... these scumbags actually think that their theories are harmeless............ writings like this specific assholes.......... have produced mass murders like anders breivik and timothy mcveigh........ hopefully this sad excuse for a human being will be shot before he can influence people with his pathetic attempts at rewriting history

...........that and he's fucking nuts

Another long example demonstrating that all holohuggers all promoters of the holy holocaust are liars. Why should anyone accept anything you liars present?

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Oh come on now. What better way to expose people to everything you find abhorrent about a position then to keep it's proponents talking about it as loudly as possible, as often as possible, to as many people as possible?

What's needed here is a megaphone, not a bullet.

Demonstrating holocaust believers are all liars is a good place to start.

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One of the really ironic thing about holocaust denial is that it all comes from nazis who would like nothing more than to see lots of jews massacred. "There wasn't a holocaust......but there should of been!" Give me a fucking break.

And as with everything else you have no evidence in support of that statement. That does pass the criteria for a lie.

[Aractus]

You guys are all idiots. You're arguing with someone who, essentially, believes that the moon landings were a hoax and a conspiracy and therefore all the "evidence" is really the work of those behind the conspiracy!

It appears all the holohuggers are liars now that you have chimed in with that invention.

Denying the moon landing is to deny an historical event - not just the details of said event, I can't think of a more suitable comparison to your opinion on the holocaust.

For there to be a genuine chance of there being a conspiracy you have to bring evidence that one exists. You have to show that it is possible that a conspiracy may exist, and you have to be able to show that the evidence does not fit the official version of events.

And you also know not one single holohugger here has presented the least description of the official version so again you lie.

Ah, you didn't understand what I said. Such a shame. All I did was explain the basic fact of context. Do we know about the history in the region at the time of the event and prior to that event? Yes we do. We know about WWI history, we know about German politics in the 20's and 30's, and we know about Nazi policies and their history. We also know about antisemitism - which goes all the way back to at least the middle ages in Britain. But we also know about the prejudice against Jews at the time of Nazi Germany too.

So don't pretend like history is about one single thing, one single strand - it isn't. It involves politics, economics, propaganda, science, morale, depressions, language, religions, military, all kinds of things and all sorts of historians specialize in particular fields and studying history from a particular angle. And some are lousy historians, sure, but many are excellent historians who do field work and collect data to fill in the gaps from the research others have done and build upon the larger picture by contributing their piece of the jigsaw puzzle.

So your only response is a string of lies. Again it appears all holohuggers are liars. One reasonably assumes from that that everything they present is also lies. No conspiracy just a bunch of unmitigated liars peddling nothing they know anything about. Might as well be selling snake oil.

Response to what? I'm not interested in having a discussion with you over the validity of the evidence for the Holocaust. You're way off in lala land I'm afraid, and are incapable of absorbing the truth.

[The Grand Nudger]

Demonstrating holocaust believers are all liars is a good place to start.

Fight the good fight. You reckon that you're actually capable of establishing that people are lying about some belief that you insist that they have?

[Aractus]

Aparantly I lie everytime I open my mouth.

[downbeatplumb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohrtFuxUzZE

[cratehorus]

great he got banned..... now we'll never know the truth

[catfish]

Now I'll never to get witness his breakdown...

[Aractus]

Well it's clear from this thread that he wasn't interested in discussing history anyway, otherwise he would have opened with a more honest approach to discussing history. Instead he tells us to believe that someone simply invented history!

[Rev. Rye]

Well it's clear from this thread that he wasn't interested in discussing history anyway, otherwise he would have opened with a more honest approach to discussing history. Instead he tells us to believe that someone simply invented history!

After he denied the Beer Hall Putsch, Part of me wanted to ask if there was any part of German History he didn't outright deny.